Why is it people hide behind their true motive for keeping

[RegieRocker]

marijuana illegal? Is it because they don't want to be confronted with the truth (facts)? Do they want everyone else to be like them? Just what are they afraid of?

[liberal N proud]

1. Maybe it is this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFNnquncGk

[Jersey Devil]

40. guy in the back seat of that commercial a dead ringer for Bill Murray

if it isn't him

[Jersey Devil]

41. Smarten up! Learn the truth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM_vLk1I6G4

[GKirk]

2. What is the true motive? n/t

[RegieRocker]

5. Yep

[GKirk]

8. Yep?

Are you saying you don't know?

[RegieRocker]

10. LOL Why would I be asking. You think you know everyones

motive for keep it illegal? Enlighten us.

[GKirk]

12. You stated:

"Why is it people hide behind their true motive for keeping marijuana illegal?"

I thought that implied you knew what their true motive was, which is why i asked you to tell me what it is. But apparently you don't know either.

[RegieRocker]

14. The ? is a ded giveaway.

[GKirk]

16. No...it's not...

you didn't ask "what is their true motive?", you asked "why do they hide behind it?" Big diference.

[RegieRocker]

22. Now you understand the question would you give your take on it?

[Jackpine Radical]

3. I think that the true motive, for the authorities at least,

is to give them a reliable method of busting hippies and other people with "authority problems." I recall when the editor of an antiwar paper at Ft. Hood was busted for possession of a seed in his pants pocket. The MPs probably planted it, but it was enough to eliminate him as a thorn in their side.

[Jamastiene]

4. K&R

There is such a taboo on the truth about marijuana. Most politicians are afraid to come on out and say keeping marijuana illegal is bullshit. Many probably secretly realize it and know it, but when they lick their finger and stick it in the wind, they realize it is not "safe" to come on out and say it yet.

It is not that they want other people to be like them. It is that they are afraid to rock the boat and be different than other people. No wonder there are no more great inventors. Everyone just wants to be like everyone else. Boring. Regressive.

[SidDithers]

6. Which people?...nt

Sid

[RegieRocker]

9. I worry about you Sid. I'll help you this time.

Those against the legalization of marijuana. Clearly stated. Now,can you give a response other than silliness?

[ecstatic]

7. "they want everyone else to be like them"

That might be it in a nutshell. Though I have friends who smoke, I can't stand the habit. I think it's a waste of time and money and I wish they'd stop (although I don't force my views on them). I think all drugs should be legal though, because adults should be free to make their own decisions on what to put into their bodies. Also, it would probably reduce drug related crimes and free up some prison space.

[Texasgal]

11. I'm most likely gonna get flamed for this

but the legalization of pot is on the bottom of my list of care.

Wars, povery, healthcare, unemployment, homeless ,education... etc. Those are my priority.

I don't care about marijuana. With that said, sure I think it should be legal, but right now I just don't care.

[RegieRocker]

13. I understand that. There are however many people especially

in your state that are being sent to prison for a long time because of the idea " It's not important to me". Hundreds of thousands of lives annually are being wrecked because of it being illegal.

[Texasgal]

17. I hear you, is it wrong?

Sure. It is wrong.

But honestly, my priority is keeping a roof over my head, food on the table and fighting for education for my family.

Fighting for legalization is just not that important to me. I'm sorry, it's just not.

[Thunderstruck]

18. So, you don't care about the thousands sitting in jail for simple possession

of personal-use weed? How about their families who are left at home without them or the lose of their jobs, etc.?

You don't care?

[Texasgal]

19. Sure, I said it was wrong didn't I?

I just said that lealization is on the BOTTOM of my list of care.

[Thunderstruck]

21. And by extension you seem to be saying that those vicitimized by

oppressive pot laws are at the bottom of your list of care.

I have a feeling you do care about those victims. And if that is the case, then you should consider moving marijuana legalization up your list of care.

[GKirk]

25. Legalizing pot wouldn't

get anyone out of jail.

[RegieRocker]

27. Explain why? I have to hear this reasoning.

[GKirk]

28. That't the way the legal system works

...if you are convicted of an illegal act your sentence stands regardless of the law being changed later. It would be different if the law outlawing pot was found unconstitutional but that's not what we're talking about here.

[RegieRocker]

29. If only marijuana possession was their charge, it would be committed or pardoned.

[GKirk]

31. The word is commuted

but there is no certainty that they would be pardoned or have their sentence commuted.

[RegieRocker]

32. No certainty that it wouldn't.

[GKirk]

34. But not very likely

the reason? The person did break a law at the time.

A simple example: You drive 70mph down a highway with a 55mph speed limit. You get a ticket
and then sometime later they up the speed limit to 70mph. You're stuck with the ticket.
Why? You broke the law at the time.

[RegieRocker]

36. Not jail time. It would still remain on record that is the only certainty.

[Maru Kitteh]

39. and your precedent for this assumption is based on what?

[RegieRocker]

42. Death penalty is one example. Common sense? Vacated?

[Maru Kitteh]

43. You think when the death penalty was abolished they set people free?

[RegieRocker]

44. You don't want to admit the fact they were sentenced to be executed

and the law changed not allowing executions so they weren't executed? Do you know what vacated is? People have been released from jail when what they did was no longer a crime. Don't ask me to give you an example it would be silly. There are many.

[Maru Kitteh]

45. Then it should be easy FOR you.

When the state stops executing prisoners, do they set the death-row inmates free?

[RegieRocker]

46. It's hard for you. Changing a persons sentencing from death

to not death is a further stretch than letting some people who use pot out of jail.

[Maru Kitteh]

47. lame sauce

[RegieRocker]

48. Right back at ya!

[snot]

26. +1

[Taitertots]

33. Many of those problems are made significantly worse by marijuana prohibition

If you care about solving those problems, you have to address the elephant in the room (prohibition).

[Initech]

15. They'll keep it illegal until it starts becoming profitable.

[seabeyond]

20. i am not afraid, i dont want everyone to be like me, and i love the truth.

i would not generally get in this discussion, nor put out my view, for attack adn a lot of back and forth conversation. but i am, becuase there are different reasons and motives, so sharing a bet of different perspective.

i love pot. was always a pot smoker (not last couple years) and like pot smokers tons better than drinkers. cant be around boozers.

my clarification

i dont believe in prison for pot, or jail or anything much for penalty. i was raised in calif if you had under an ounce was no more that a ticket, and even at that, generally didnt get one, kinda like my speeding. i am good with that.

but i do believe and have heard from other countries that legalizing drugs does not illiminate the criminal element and even creates more of the problem.

if we legalize, fine. if we make the laws so users are not punished, but providers are, fine. i kinda like how it is developing though making it more a norm thru medical. but i am not big on the issue, and have tons of info.

my point is, i think there are all kinds of reasons. my father never did pot, or around people who did. a couple years ago i shared with him the difference between the pot smoker and other drugs (alcohol) and what exactly it does to a person. not the out of control he thougth it was. he was kinda fascinated and interested in what he was hearing.

[Biker13]

30. "I love pot"!

Gotta love that quote!

So do I, and haven't smoked for years. Too expensive, and that's pretty much the only reason.

On a side note, when my Dad, a straight laced banker was going through Chemo,(Bone Cancer) I gave him some joints. He changed his tune, quick!

I agree about booze. All through college and grad school, I NEVER drank, only smoked weed. I thought drunks were disgusting.

I say, legalize it. Stop with pot though.

Biker's Old Lady

[patrice]

23. Fear of freedom. Fear of losing the conventional. Fear of difference and fear of being different.

[Tsiyu]

24. I think there are many very naive people out there

Cannabis is their "line in the sand." As long as they don't go there they are safe, good, wholesome people.

"I know a few people who smoke and they are losers," some say.

I know literally hundreds of people who use cannabis, from every walk of life.

They know that the naive people have their "line in the sand," so most of the cannabis users - WORKING judges, lawyers, construction contractors, professors, doctors, teachers, mechanics, writers, real estate agents, retail managers, librarians, psychologists, chefs and yes, even cops - don't let the naive people know they use it. They go to work every day, do their jobs and no one is the wiser.

But they realize they will be judged and condemned by the naive and the authoritarian, so they hide it very well.

Then the naive ones believe in their very small hearts that only "losers" use it. This helps them justify their attitude.

I feel sorry for people who are so naive and so easily duped by propaganda.
They really have no clue.

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[ReggieVeggie]

37. opposition is flamed because most opposition is baseless

especially given the costs of the drug war and the impact on people's live from these nonsensical laws

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