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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:51 PM
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What happened to this.......?
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:54 PM
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1. Those Libyan rebels don't count.
They're not good enough to fight their own revolution, they need foreign patrons to wage their war for them.

:sarcasm:
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:58 PM
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2. That pic doesn't mean nuthin'
according to defense industry and oil experts
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:00 PM
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3. Obama needs a military "win" to frame his presidency to help get re-elected in 2012.
Do you not want the President to win again? Those people in the picture are rebels.

Hello! "Rebels" They don't know what they want and their democracy is too important to put in their hands.

We have a major track record doing this sort of thing. They just need to hunker down to avoid the shrapnel, suck it up if a few nosy kids die, and wait for us to install a Man of the People they need to vote for.

That sign....you know...I'll bet Gaddafi printed that sign himself! It's a trick. We should probably find that sign and blow it up before more people get tricked.

PB
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:04 PM
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6. My mother said the same thing...
...this morning about the 2012 race. I hadn't even considered that angle until she mentioned it. I was mostly looking at the "Another war for oil, and another reason for the budget deficit to demand cuts!" angle.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:02 PM
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:03 PM
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5. Overtaken by reality?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:05 PM
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7. That was before they started getting their asses killed by the Brother Leader's war planes.
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 02:05 PM by Joe the Revelator
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:05 PM
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8. Nice sign! I'd like to hire that PR firm! Dramatic photo!
Since the people on the ground have been on TV saying "they're not invading, we asked for their help!" - I'll believe them before I believe one sign that looks a little slick and professional compared to those of the others who are in the streets. :shrug:
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:09 PM
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9. Libyan people can't make signs?
Are we really that advanced?
I could make that sign in my garage.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:14 PM
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11. No you couldn't.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:19 PM
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13. Could too.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:37 PM
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14. Prove it. Go recreate the sign right now.
Shouldn't take too long.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:43 PM
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15. ok,
dude.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 04:18 PM
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16. Yes, I specifically said Libyan people can't make signs.
:eyes:

It's BIG it's BOLD it's PROFESSIONAL looking and it's the only one I've seen saying they don't want outside help.

Do you disagree that the majority of people were asking for help?

This, to me, just looks like a nicely staged photo op.

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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:13 PM
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10. I remember when that photo first surfaced
Some people questioned the motives because it was a nice big graphic and the people were well-dressed. I.E. people thought it was the monied outside interests trying to push the idea that the Libyans didn't need help.

Other Libyans were calling for a NFZ. Not everyone on DU speaks with one voice, much less all Americans. Libyans can also disagree. They can also change their minds in reaction to changes in events. This is a fairly old pic, in the timeframe.

I don't know. I'm starting to believe more in Catherina's idea that the UN action is an attempt to stop the Arab revolutions. As for me - I will always be on the side of the Libyan people and will hope for the best case scenario, that the NFZ helps them get rid of Gaddafi and then they fight like hell against anyone trying to set up their government for them and win their freedom and determine their own future.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:18 PM
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12. i think this is close....
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 02:18 PM by patrick t. cakes
"Catherina's idea that the UN action is an attempt to stop the Arab revolutions"

But is it all that hard to make a sign?
And given our current record in the region, is it beyond the scope of reality to think that real "rebels",
and not military elites wanting to take MQ's place, would NOT want our "help."

We kinda fuck shit up.
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