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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:03 AM
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nuclear commission of japan (NISA = nuclear & industrial safety agency) presser coming on
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 05:10 AM by Hannah Bell
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:04 AM
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1. 8:02 pm no more smoke at third reactor but...
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:14 AM
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2. nhk now carrying too
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:18 AM
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3. so flipping back & forth between screens i got
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 05:19 AM by Hannah Bell
the gray smoke disappeared about an hour ago

they don't think it's an electricity fire because no power to that reactor
they don't think it's to do with the spent fuel rods because of the water-pouring operation, lowered temps & (I guess) lack of radiation rise...

so they don't know.

there was somehting about white smoke on number 2 reactor but i didn't get if it was the earlier white smoke (i think it was) or new white smoke.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:36 AM
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4. May do a Chernobyl and bury
it in concrete. The concrete option I believe is a last resort.

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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:16 AM
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5. That was said or your opinion? n/t
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:22 AM
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7. Heard it on CNN nt
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:25 AM
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10. Thanks for clarifying that it was not said in Japan. n/t
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:36 AM
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15. Yes, it was discussed in Japan
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:55 AM
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16. Only 'if cooling fails'. Cooling has not failed. n/t
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:20 AM
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6. They need to get on with that project and soon
the burying part that is cause there ain't no bringing these reactors back from the dead
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:24 AM
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8. Yes, that was about the gist of the report.
Way beyond salvaging this mess now.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:54 AM
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13. With these aging and admitted by the nuclear industry as inadequate fleet of reactors
we have strung out around the world, here too, I sense we'll be here again, same story, same outcome just at a different place.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:24 AM
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9. Why would you want them to bury it? Rather than a proper dismanlting and decon?
Burying just ensure the a high level of radiation will leach into the soil and ground for years.

This is why we dismantle shutdown nuclear plants instead of just burying them in place.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:48 AM
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11. Its going to be a long time before they can dismantle these reactors safely
I have no idea what the proper thing to do now is and I seriously doubt anyone here does either. The right thing to do was not build the damn things to begin with.

How much work do you get out of a man that is clad in lead I wonder? I guess they could always do like bushco did with the trade centers and just lie to the workers then deny them any meaningful health care when they became sick.

The trouble with nuclear energy is it keeps right on going like the energizer bunny 'ceptn this radiation shit is serious business.

I know about that because I'm having to live with a great deal of uncertainty because it is to risky even at my age because of the radiation necessary to put me through another round of test because not enough time has elapsed since the last time and in the mean time I may have cancer growing in my lungs and spreading to other organs as I type here on my computer now. So what ever you do don't try to tell me that any amount of radiation or that this catastrophe in japan is safe. It isn't. I know that for a fact as I live with it daily.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:53 AM
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12. Bury the reactor in concrete would be a last ditch effort.
They did it at Chernobyl simply because they had no other options.

While Bury it DID reduce the amount of radiation release at the same time it also guaranteed that millions of curies of radioactive material would make it into soil, water, and air.

If things take a turn for the worse they may have to bury one or more of the plants in Japan but an orderly disposal would long term result in less radioactive release.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:58 AM
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14. Should never have built the sunsabiotches to start with
would seem like the logical thing to have done. If you can't see far enough ahead to envision something like this happening then you're in way over your head. Now they're/we're stuck with them and all the poison they possess.
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