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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:45 AM
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Ah. I feel better. The talking points are coming together. MSNBC, just a few moment ago, had . . . .
Willie Geist, the very embodiment of Walter Cronkite, interviewing Pentagon beat reporter and paragon of honesty, that modern day Ernie Pyle, Jim Miklaszewski.

Lots of serious sounding talk, the gist of all of it being "We got dragged, kicking and screaming, to oh-so-reluctantly bomb the fuck out of Libya. Poor us. Poor, poor poor President Obama."

So that's it.

We didn't wanna do it. We got punked into it.

I took notes. I'll do better at this falling into line stuff, I promise.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:46 AM
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1. Getting up off the floor
I love your sense of humor :D
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:49 AM
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2. If propaganda airs on a tv network and nobody's watching, is it still propaganda?
nt
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:49 AM
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3. A reluctant warrior. That is the difference between Obama and Bush.
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 08:50 AM by Township75
Hey, I even heard that we are going to start giving oil to Libya just to show how reluctant we were with all of this.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:54 AM
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4. Hahahaha
Omigawd. I heard that.

A bipartisan multilateralist.

Have we stopped being "The World's Only Superpower" led by "The Most Powerful Man On Earth?" Come on. Which is it? You can't have it both ways. Well, you can, but people will laugh.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:57 AM
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5. I don't think we were or are all that reluctant. The U.S. has been
preparing for weeks before the firing of the first missile. Under the guise of humanitarianism ________________________.....fill in the blank. Something stinks. Before I get bombarded, just remember this is only imho.
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PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:02 AM
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6. It's just so easy to shoot tomahawks...
...don't ya know?
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:09 AM
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12. The Bravery of Being out of Range Roger Waters
You have a natural tendency
To squeeze off a shot
You're good fun at parties
You wear the right masks
You're old but you still
Like a laugh in the locker room
You can't abide change
You're at home an the range
You opened your suitcase
Behind the old workings
To show off the magnum
You deafened the canyon
A comfort a friend
Only upstaged in the end
By the Uzi machine gun
Does the recoil remind you
Remind you of sex
Old man what the hell you gonna kill next
Old timer who you gonna kill next
I looked over Jordan and what did I see
Saw a U.S. Marine in a pile of debris
I swam in your pools
And lay under your palm trees
I looked in the eyes of the Indian
Who lay on the Federal Building steps
And through the range finder over the hill
I saw the frontline boys popping their pills
Sick of the mess they find
On their desert stage
And the bravery of being out of range
Yeah the question is vexed
Old man what the hell you gonna kill next
Old timer who you gonna kill next
Hey bartender over here
Two more shots
And two more beers
Sir turn up the TV sound
The war has started on the ground
Just love those laser guided bombs
They're really great
For righting wrongs
You hit the target
And win the game
From bars 3,000 miles away
3,000 miles away
We play the game
With the bravery of being out of range
We zap and maim
With the bravery of being out of range
We strafe the train
With the bravery of being out of range
We gained terrain
With the bravery of being out of range
With the bravery of being out of range
We play the game
With the bravery of being out of range
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PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:42 AM
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22. Happiness is a warm missile launcher
Raytheon will have to get busy now and make some more.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:04 AM
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7. As long as you have the memo and know what to say and believe.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:05 AM
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8. And the rockets red glare - that doesn't seem very reluctant. Nt
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:06 AM
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9. I keep seeing your rec count drop,
apparently you aren't falling in line well enough. Next time try all caps. :)
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:22 AM
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15. Who couldn't recommend a post, by someone named Stinky The Clown?
?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:07 AM
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10. When the UN speaks, the US must get in line and say "Yes, SIR!"....
Well, at least that was the talking point here yesterday....
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PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:09 AM
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11. Apparently, the Arab League isn't in line anymore
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 09:09 AM by PhillySane
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:13 AM
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13. Does anyone believe Obama wanted to go to war with Libya?

I know I don't.


Unlike Bush Co. which had a war with Iraq planned before he even made it into office.


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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:21 AM
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14. Let's speculate:
Low polls.

High chronic unemployment

Worsening economy

Lost a congressional house.

2012

"Moderates" and independents.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:32 AM
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18. You forgot:
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 09:32 AM by jefferson_dem
President Obama's desperate need to distract from his not-so-great "March Madness" selections

...

and this :tinfoilhat:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:46 AM
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23. Lulz, a better question would be does anyone believe Obama did not
want to go to war with Libya. I mean, really. Why would he NOT want to do that? Elections are coming up. The country is in shit shape. Congress can't decided which social programs to cut the most. Yet, there is always more than enough money for bombs. The flashy graphics are already appearing on the complicit news networks.

But, no, I'm not falling in line sufficiently. By golly, we should all be so :patriot: and believe whatever bullshit they shovel toward us. We don't need no steenking Social Security or Medicare. Just make more bombs and make us all proud to be Americans. :patriot:
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:25 AM
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16. Damn those Libyan rebels! They're letting themselves get slaughtered just to drag the US into war...
We shouldn't stop Qaddafi from slaughtering them. That will teach them!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:29 AM
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17. You may have nailed (what you think are) the adminstration's talking points. But what about DU's?
It's not "poor, poor President Obama"...

It's "poor, poor Muammar". So misunderstood. He does not intend to be a murderous tyrant.
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PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:37 AM
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19. I'm just confused
I thought we were enforcing a no-fly zone? So, why are we shooting at tanks?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:48 AM
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24. It is hard to accept at first.
If you remember the golden rule of MIC 101: Never believe the lies they tell you...you will start to be much less confused over time. Later on, you will start to see through it right away the minute they tell you the next batch of lies.

It gets better.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:38 AM
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20. Rec'd. We've been working on dividing Libya for a while. This charade fools no one. n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:39 AM
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21. K&R
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 09:43 AM by Jamastiene
I'm having a tough time with the whole "falling in line" thing too. I've seen too much bullshit through the years to believe our government really gives two shits about democracy.

Remember: "Falling in line" means working really really really hard to appear that you don't have to pretend to overlook the fact that the U.S. Congress can't seem to agree on which much needed social programs to cut the most for our budget at home. Yet, by God, there is ALWAYS MORE than enough money for bombs. No questions asked. After all, March is a prime time to start another war what with all our tax dollars starting to trickle in and their big payday being April 15th for the rest. :woohoo: more money to build and drop more bombs. I can almost see them all doing happy dances in their offices with the doors closed. I can't stop thinking about Slim Pickens riding an A-bomb in that movie either.

I swear I wish some doctors and lawyers would get together and form a front operation that appears to the U.S. government to be a bomb making factory, then funnel all the money from the cushy contracts into helping people behind Congress' back.
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