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rampart Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 08:53 AM
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warning to military personnel
repeal of "don't ask don't tell" leaves article 125 of the ucmj in place.

Article 125 Sodomy

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

the military is now free to prosecute (and persecute) under article 125 as an "unintended consequence" of dadt repeal.

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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 09:01 AM
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1. I really doubt they will pursue this. They need all the manpower/womanpower they can get right now.
Military is stretched very thin, especially the Army.

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 12:09 PM
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7. They've needed that manpower for some time and have still been drumming people out. (nt)
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 09:05 AM
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2. Not to go OT but what does the military code say about rape?
I mean it's happened, happening and will continue to happen, and if you read the occasional DU post, it happens frequently but is rarely publicized and more rarely, prosecuted.

Unless of course you think that there will be a certain segment going out way of the way to report such activities?



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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 09:12 AM
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3. As a 20+ year vet, I never saw nor heard of this ever being used.
Highly doubtful that this will be used in that way.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 09:55 AM
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4. This also covers oral sex
I wonder how many heterosexual officers and enlisted that that would apply to??
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 12:09 PM
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8. It can cover any sex but missionary...
and if it isn't with your spouse, it's adultery (article 134).
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 09:59 AM
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5. Wouldn't this have been eliminated by the Supreme Court decision in that Texas case?
That overturned the law making sodomy illegal?
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 01:06 PM
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9. People in the armed forces are sworned to protect the Constitution
but they are no protected by the constitution.

That's why Generals did not come out against Bush until they retired. No free speach.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-10 12:07 PM
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6. So?
What are you getting at? Isn't sex against the regulations, period? Or are you saying that you believe since DADT was eliminated there will be a rash of anal sex all of a sudden? Gays gone wild? Stop it, this is nonscense...
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