WTF Dennis, WTF?

[DainBramaged]

Throwing out the "I" word to these crazy ass nutbag birther Teabaggers and drunken tanning bed whores running the Congress? Are you nuts? Are you seriously off your rocker giving them ammunition?


Now I know you're out there, put your tinfoil hat on and ride your hobby horsey down the halls of Congress....

[seabeyond]

1. WTF drainbramaged, WTF?.... lol

dont know what you are talking about.

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[seabeyond]

6. i just saw the thread. thanks. nt

[DainBramaged]

31. My image went bye bye

:shrug:

[seabeyond]

nevermind. i see what D did. nt

[DainBramaged]

8. It's bad enough here we rip the President to shreds, but DK?? (big sigh)

[seabeyond]

23. i hear ya. nt

[spanone]

5. kucinich claimed that bombing libya was an impeachable offense for President Obama

[seabeyond]

7. i see. thanks. nt

[bluestateguy]

2. I think the proper label is Leftbagger

nt

[SpiralHawk]

12. Thanks. I thought it was TeaSmoker

[ixion]

3. I support Kucinich

as I always have. He is consistent, and I respect that.

[Ramulux]

9. Nice childish personal insults

Care to explain why what he said isn't true? Or do you just want to make fun of someone because you dont agree with them.

[DainBramaged]

10. Not worth a reply

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. Dennis was the first to verbalize the "I" word.

I don't believe for one second the Teabaggers/Repukes weren't already readying their Impeachment speech. Dennis just beat them to the punch. Took their steam away, so to speak. ;)

[ReggieVeggie]

11. oh for christ's sake!

Like he was standing in fron of the Beck rally calling for Obama's impeachment! You people need to calm down. If what Obama did could be considered an impeachable offense, suppressing discussion doesn't seem a very liberal notion.

[DainBramaged]

15. HAHAHAHAHA you made a funny

not

[JohnnyRingo]

13. Here's the headline:

"Democrats admit they made a mistake. Can they ever be trusted again?"

Do democrats want to eat that headline now, or wait until November?
It'll be a cold day that a dem gets elected if their fellow party members primary Obama or move to impeach. Believe me, there's no way to defend what will be shouted through the Fox News/ AM radio megaphone: That the Democratic party is a failed institution.

Those here that feel they can put another candidate up in November and everything will be hunky-dory should be advised as well. We bought it, and we have to live with it. There are no other options lest we welcome a decades long Republican White House.

[hlthe2b]

14. Yes... After his olive pit lawsuit, I just thought Dennis had lost it a bit...

Now, I don't know what to think about him. But, agree or disagree re: policy towards Libya. Obama is technically following the letter of the law vis-a-vis the War Powers act. To suggest impeachment, is contemptible grandstanding IMO.

[DainBramaged]

16. I know, over an olive pit, pathetic....

And with the best health and dental plans in America.....

[Ghost in the Machine]

26. No, it was over a broken tooth and thousands of dollars in dental bills..

Do YOU expect to bite into an olive pit and break a tooth when YOU order a sandwich somewhere? Would YOU expect the people responsible for the damage to pay for YOUR expenses? I sure as hell would...

[liberalmuse]

17. I have to agree with you.

Jesus, I wanted this guy to be President back in 2002. I was pretty stunned to read what he said today, and yes, it is reactionary and uncalled for. Hell, when a liberal starts jumping the gun faster than the worst, nutball conservatives, then I have to wonder.

[CakeGrrl]

18. Dumb-ass stupid thing to do.

What the hell kind of Democrat gives an iota of legitimacy to the idea of impeaching a fellow Democrat when so many asshat Republicans are chomping at the bit to do it?

Dumb-ass stupid.

[Ramulux]

20. You are completely right

Democratic presidents should be allowed to do whatever illegal shit they want without repercussions simply because republicans want to see them fail.



1. Democratic President commits possibly illegal act

2. Democratic congressman alludes to fact that illegal act could lead to impeachment

3. Republicans jump at chance to impeach president

4. ?????

5. Democrat who brought up impeachment is an evil republican-enabling traitor and democratic president is completely impeachment-free.


Flawless Logic.

[DainBramaged]

21. Why are you so upset? Is it because you have feelings for Dennis, or want Obama impeached?

how sad.

[revolutionnow45]

30. Kucinich was not so quick to demand impeachment when it was truly deserved

The strange thing about Kucinich and Impeachment....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x710688

[Ramulux]

32. Seriously?

You are going to go after the one guy in congress who actually offered up articles of impeachment because he didn't do it sooner? I guess he should have, but its funny that you bring this up like its so damning to his character. If we are going after Dennis for not trying to impeach Bush sooner, I'm pretty sure that means there are literally no democratic congressman liberal enough for those people. Dennis was mocked and ridiculed by members of his own party for bringing up impeachment, but I guess he was just doing it for fun.

[DainBramaged]

33. !!11 SERIES!!1111

:rofl:

[madinmaryland]

36. THIS IS HUGH!!!

[Hippo_Tron]

19. It's not an impeachable offense as per the War Powers Act

Which authorizes the President to use military force for 60 days without congressional approval. It's only an impeachable offense if you believe that the President isn't empowered to use any force whatsoever without a formal declaration of war by congress. In which case you would have a good number of Presidents to retroactively impeach.

[flvegan]

22. Doesn't the US have to be under attack or direct threat under that Act?

I don't know, I'm no expert.

[bluestate10]

27. Exactly. Dennis Kucinich lost relevance long ago, may his district

get merged post haste.

[slipslidingaway]

29. War Powers Act ...

"The War Powers Resolution of 1973 (50 U.S.C. 1541–1548) was a United States Congress joint resolution providing that the President can send U.S. armed forces into action abroad only by authorization of Congress or if the United States is already under attack or serious threat..."

Where is the attack or threat from Libya to the US?

Links here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=703645&mesg_id=703751

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2011/03/18/libya

"...The arguments made to justify such unilateral presidential action are uniquely unpersuasive. Former Bush OLC official and Harvard Law Professor Jack Goldsmith, along with others, points to Clinton's air bombing campaign of Kosovo without Congressional approval, but the mere fact that X happened in the past does not mean X is justifiable; ...

...And then there's the notion that the War Powers Act entitles a President to order military force for a limited time without Congress, but that constitutionally dubious statute has never been tested and thus does not remotely resolve the constitutional question.

The one point I want to underscore is that the constitutional requirement for Congressional approval is not some legalistic or technical barrier; it's vital..."

[madinmaryland]

35. Obama is just following established precedent of the Bush Doctrine.

If it was not impeachable under the Bush Misadministration, then without the lies of them, then it must be ok.






















:hide:

and

:popcorn:

[Solomon]

40. Aw get off it. Bush wasn't the only one to do it. Try going back

the past 30 or 40 years.

[PurityOfEssence]

24. If it's bad that they do it, it's bad that we do it.

Kucinich, for all his many faults, is fairly consistent. He voted for continuing the impeachment inquiry against Clinton early on, and he did so because he thought there was potential merit to the charges. Upon determining that they didn't have merit, he voted against it.

[DainBramaged]

25. But Clinton was impeached by the Congress, his vote didn't matter

and sometimes your conscious can get a lot of other people in trouble they don't deserve...


The charges against President Clinton had NO MERIT, read The Hunting of the President to understand how hard the Right worked to knock him out.

[bluestate10]

28. Conscious. WHAT??? Anyone that was thinking would have realized in

two minutes that republicans were looking for ANYTHING as fuel to impeach Clinton. Give me a break, democrats don't need gullible politicians like Kucinich around. First he makes an absolute ass of himself suing over damaged teeth from an olive pit, then he runs around talking about impeachment of a President that is working fully within his authority under the War Powers Act.

[ZombieHorde]

34. Ha! Politics is fun. nt

[Kahuna]

37. Dain, you confuse me.

:crazy:

[DutchLiberal]

38. Well, Obama should be impeached, but not over Libya...

... but over indefinite detention, keeping Gitmo open, extraordinary rendition, drone attacks, not restoring habeas corpus...

All things we wanted Bush to be impeached over, but we support it when Obama does it.