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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:59 PM Original message |
My, how DU has changed. Yay War! |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. So if Obama did nothing and there was a slaughter in Libya |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Funny how sometimes you don't care about slaughter... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. So how does your attitude help Libyans. Do they deserve to die because their country has oil? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Reality check: People die in revolutions all the time |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. +1 |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. The pro-war crowd doesn't want to hear that |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
70. Robert Mugabe is among the worst tyrants on the globe but has been left alone |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
164. Actually, Libya doesn't have very much oil. |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #164 |
180. From the CIA Factbook. |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #180 |
262. Excellent post - bookmarking thread just for your elucidation of current events. |
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howaboutme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #180 |
287. Fxxx all the warm mongers even if the name is Obxxx and he has a D after his name |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #70 |
174. Yep. The only oil in Zimbabwe is corn oil, and we make that ourselves. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #174 |
213. The justification may be bullshit, but it is just nonetheless. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 06:08 AM Response to Reply #174 |
306. But my point was and is |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
272. The actions in Libya have the support of Arab States |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #272 |
355. The African Union opposes this. The Arab League, filled |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
78. +1 |
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Dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
80. Yeah, Gaddafi slaughtering his own people would just be same old, same old |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #80 |
123. Sit back and "enjoy"? I don't know anybody that's enjoying this mess. |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #80 |
225. Just like we saved the Iraquis from themselves? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 06:10 AM Response to Reply #225 |
307. Are you sure you don't automatically disapprove what Obama does? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #307 |
324. Why dont you provide an argument for your stand instead of the "are you sure..." bs? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #324 |
327. Would you support Obama if he stayed out of Libya, no matter |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #327 |
332. I am glad to answer honest questions. I would support Pres Obama in either case if he had gone to |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #327 |
334. Why do you only ask questions and never answer? nm |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #80 |
259. Civil Wars |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
87. If it were about oil, we'd support Qadaffi |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #87 |
112. "We" had supported Qadaffi for 10 years. The current operation is to rescue... |
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nxylas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #112 |
154. Yep, if we allowed a real revolution, Gaddafi might be replaced with someone not approved by Big Oil |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #154 |
178. that may be their motive |
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rtassi (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #178 |
268. You mean like ours? N/T |
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Geoffrey_Lebowski (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
194. I'm not entirely sure that's true ... |
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CrossChris (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
211. Maybe we're trying to keep the spigots off? |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #87 |
239. With this operation the French Brits and U.S. are reminding everyone |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
109. Not to mention Sudan. |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #24 |
130. +10 |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #24 |
140. + 1,000,000 |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
147. Very. Well. Put. |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
149. +5 |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
163. That's conveniently forgotten by the neo humanitarians. |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
168. So... |
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AKDavy (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
201. "Save the fake humanitarianism" -- In a nutshell |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
253. Abso-fucking-lutely, LL |
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erodriguez (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
275. Bingo! |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
356. Ok cool. So DU's now down with the slaughter of revolutionaries. Bookmarked. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
107. How does you attitude help Saudis, Yemenis, Sudanese, Koreans, Colombians? |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
119. Answer: Nobody does... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #119 |
153. That's lovely. I'm sure when we invent a time machine, that will be helpful. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #153 |
216. If you stop changes tenses, you'd get the point |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #216 |
314. Yes, that's a lovely "I told you so". |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #119 |
158. Uh, we didn't install Qadaffi |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #158 |
247. True. However a lot of neocons gave him a "clean slate" the day he came out against al-Qaeda |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
171. So how does your attitude help Iraqis. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #171 |
183. you really think the un did no good in bosnia? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #183 |
192. By the time we got there, the killings had already taken place |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #183 |
333. the UN and US royally screwed up in Bosnia and Kosovo. |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
261. Isn't that the same damned argument thrown at us about Iraq? Not everyone has a short memory |
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rtassi (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #261 |
269. Truth ... Nothing wrong with my memory either ... |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
176. many of us called for action in sudan before the killings started |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:27 PM Original message |
No. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. I have a question about that, and it's been bugging me |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Intervention is never justified. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Not even in Bosnia? |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Not even Bosnia. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. So we should help none simply because we can't help all? |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Yep.... and it isn't about "helping" anyone.... |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. All right, but can no good come of it? |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Iraq and this situation are no different.... |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. No reason to be patronizing or hostile, friend |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. No good will come of it. n/t |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:34 AM Response to Reply #51 |
88. How is a unilateral, preemptive, illegal invasion of Iraq |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:22 AM Response to Reply #41 |
103. I don't think that dropping weapons on any country and its |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #103 |
136. Depleted Uranium |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #136 |
298. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 06:03 AM Response to Reply #298 |
305. What does that have to do with Depleted Uranium? |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
113. Wow... I'm just glad you weren't in power in World War II... |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:22 AM Response to Reply #113 |
120. In case you forgot, we didn't enter that until the Japanese bombed us.... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #120 |
146. You might want to go back to history class |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #146 |
187. Material support is alot different than actually dropping the bombs yourself. |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #146 |
271. A little more history - We didn't lend the Allies anything. If you remember there was a huge |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #271 |
283. I have to take issue with your statement about rationing. |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #283 |
319. I did find this link from BBC re: rationing ended in 1954, I was told by 2 Scotsmen |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #319 |
335. I certainly didn't see any evidence of it anywhere. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #146 |
342. You might want to go back to history class yourself.. |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #120 |
170. Really? You think the US "should have" let Auschwitz continue? |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #170 |
185. That was kind of my thought |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #170 |
190. You really think any of our politicians at the time cared?n/t |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #190 |
202. Yes, I do, Especially FDR. I'm glad the Americans intervened. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #202 |
236. We didn't intervene. We entered AFTER we got bombed. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #236 |
244. Japan didn't bomb the U.S.out of the clear blue. |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #244 |
273. Nonsense - Germany was banned from making mutions and they signed |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #273 |
277. I don't know where you're coming from. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #277 |
344. The US had more than enough reason for entering the war prior to the |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #344 |
359. "FDR knew |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #359 |
367. Sorry, I put it in the wrong spot. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #244 |
290. An oil embargo isn't military intervention.... |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #290 |
292. FDR's intentions |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #292 |
300. Follow the original comments.... |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #300 |
301. On post 236 you said |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #244 |
318. I was responding to your post here - though it is a thread drift of major proportions |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #38 |
145. We have stood by while atrocities were committed time and time again. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #145 |
189. But is that lack of consistency sufficient justificaton to stay out of any particular atrocity? |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #189 |
212. We are not the police force for the world. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. If we minded our own business on any kind of consistent basis |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. That's a good answer |
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Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #42 |
56. +1000 |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
139. I don't know the answer but in regards to Libya, I agree with this article. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
184. we are saying that ghadaffi has WMD's and lying to the un about it? |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
291. Word, it is like some bizarre shit deja vu around here. nt |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. Have you considered nuance and other unstable Nations? |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
111. According to them, we shouldn't do anything in Libya, because we didn't do anything in Rwanda. |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
191. Why would Obama be blamed for killings in Libya? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 06:16 AM Response to Reply #191 |
308. Are you serious? |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #308 |
325. What? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #325 |
328. Fine. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
215. I notice you dropped your turd and moved on. Didnt stick around to debate. nm |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 06:18 AM Response to Reply #215 |
310. How is this a response? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #310 |
323. Of course you are not correct. Why dont you ever give your opinion instead of criticizing others? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #323 |
331. Exactly. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #331 |
337. I am not giving up, but we are fucked. nm |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
218. Deleted message |
lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
224. NO - we are not the worlds police |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 06:18 AM Response to Reply #224 |
309. OK, so you'd support Obama if we stayed out |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
249. I wouldn't be blaming him. Fuck Libya... |
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WVRICK13 (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
258. No I Would Not Be Blaming |
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joentokyo (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
263. So right! Much better for us to slaughter them than let them slaughter each other. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
270. No. Not our problem |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
351. Sure, I'd blame him for continuing the bullshit republicrat/democan "policy" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. You'd think. n/t |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. My how some progressives have changed. They've stopped thinking and started generalizing |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. And there is PLENTY of reason to question this particular policy decision. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. There are few if any comparisons to be made, that said, the two issues you raised I agree with |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. +1 |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #36 |
94. If Bush intervened unilaterally (his usual cowboy diplomacy), we should want his head. If Obama |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #94 |
245. Thanks for the history. nt//////////////////// |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
53. A generalization is a product of thinking. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:08 AM Response to Reply #53 |
61. There is no rhetoric or justifications to recognize. For some facts with links |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #61 |
96. Of course there is, beginning with the fictitious no fly zone |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #96 |
116. Inviting the US to create a "no fly zone" is like inviting Entenmanns to a pie fight |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #116 |
135. The US wasn't invited to show up, UN member statements were compelled to create one. Nice spin n/t |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #135 |
196. sure. fine. Enjoy your war. n/t |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #196 |
198. Oh I am not enjoying it. I am appalled at the low quality of the arguments against it here n/t |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:00 AM Response to Reply #53 |
84. read Juan Coles piece... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:04 AM Response to Reply #84 |
95. I don't recall claiming Libya is Iraq. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
58. Spot-on post. +1. n/t. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
203. Ah, yes. I love how you complain about a generalization by generalizing |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
353. You are guilty of generalizing about "some Progressives" |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. Seems to me it was when Bush* stepped away from the No-FLY zone |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. i've noticed and mentioned it myself |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's not the difference of opinion that I've noticed |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Isn't that what this thread is doing? Tarring those as Bush-like who support helping the Libyans. |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Nobel WHAT prize? |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. The Nobel PEACE Prize of 2009 |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
10. My husband & I were discussing the U.S.'s involvement in Libya tonight. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. Tell it to |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
265. Thank you ProSense nt |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
14. I know. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
89. "It's all about oil! Caw!" |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
206. some of us still want the un to function |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
15. When did Obama start "ugly illegal wars based upon lies"? |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
47. I agree. Obama said: "I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars." n/t |
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StarburstClock (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
65. Actually, invading a country that isn't a threat to us is illegal, plus the No Fly Zone |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:42 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Wrong. |
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StarburstClock (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:01 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I'm not "WRONG". The U.S. military action will escalate and provoke war. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:38 AM Response to Reply #68 |
90. Might want to check Article VI again |
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StarburstClock (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #90 |
228. I've got to laugh, you might want to read the UN charter |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
266. The Senate approved the No Fly Zone |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
207. missle launches were to take out |
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StarburstClock (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #207 |
229. And the missile launches killed civilians, in direct violation of the UN charter |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #229 |
242. how can you have agression with zero deaths? |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
16. Look, Ripley, the kkkoch godafi-like mercenaries are coming to get ... |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. I dunno what's up, either... |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:13 AM Response to Reply #17 |
85. That was my Commandant who said that. |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #85 |
155. Mine, too... later M-3-7 .... you? |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #155 |
195. While I was at boot camp. |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. I agree with this guy.... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
62. Here is why that argument doesnt make sense |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #62 |
117. All that argument is interesting... but... |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #117 |
340. What the hell does he know about it anyway, |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
19. Fucking A |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
74. Steve, I suspect honest historians will name these 'The OIL WARS' |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
321. dont forget the drug wars, the real ones |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. Did you do a poll 9 years ago about the then-recent intervention by Clinton in fmr. Yugoslavia? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. not in my recollection. |
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ReggieVeggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Now you're arguing that Clinton should have been impeached? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #45 |
59. How do you get that from what I posted? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #45 |
114. Actually, the old order should have been glasnosted out of existence in the 1960s. |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. UN Sanctioned, Arab League Supported, NATO Allies engaged - Even France |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
63. And thats what some of these folks dont understand. When you put forth nonsensical arguments against |
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StarburstClock (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
69. Explain where UN resolutions override the POTUS's adherance to U.S. law |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #69 |
126. Educate yourself. Ignorance is ugly |
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StarburstClock (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #126 |
234. Right, and invading Iraq based on WMD lies was "legal" too |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #234 |
317. It's the lies that were the illegal part, not the invasion. (nt) |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #69 |
151. When we ratified the treaty creating the UN |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #151 |
208. treaties only exist between the usa and other countries |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #208 |
315. The next election doesn't matter. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #315 |
320. the next election matters to politicians |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #320 |
322. And the new congress could do....... |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #322 |
326. you are right this is an extreme hypothetical |
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StarburstClock (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #151 |
235. Here's the UN Charter, I suggest you actually read it |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #235 |
316. Did you? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #69 |
160. POTUS is complying with U.S. law |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. Recommended. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
210. i am far left |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
26. Yup. Gungho. |
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Keith Bee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
29. Being a Dem doesn't automatically mean "pacifism in ALL SITUATIONS" |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
34. The reasons why I disagree with this Libya action are... |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
75. Eisenhower's departing warning originally was the Military Industrial Congressional Complex |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
40. knr nt |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
43. Okay, you know what? |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Some people are heartless and cold (to different degrees), no matter... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
55. I've been listening to actual Libyans, too. We've probably read the same tweets. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:05 AM Response to Reply #55 |
81. How do you know Tweets come from Libya and not Langley VA? |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:18 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. +1000 |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #81 |
98. You can't know at every point. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #98 |
165. Al Jazeera joined the counter revolution weeks ago. Qatar made deals with Saudi Arabia |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #165 |
172. Al Jazeera has its own concerns. I was addressing the issue |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #172 |
186. Mostly agreed. I started getting qualms when I noticed more and more |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #186 |
227. The only outlet I trust as far as I can throw is Amy. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #172 |
369. Al Jazeera English have been doing a lot of reporting on Bahrain and Yemen |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #98 |
313. Libya Alhurra is the center of everything, there's a cell phone network throughout Libya revo's. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
97. +1 |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #43 |
129. +1 |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #43 |
161. MM, you know the main reason I stopped doing those is because they were from expats |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #161 |
312. They did rise up from everywhere! Don't listen to this! |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
221. dont tone down your rhetoric |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
46. It's all a matter of loyalty to the team, sadly. |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #46 |
134. Not all of us are pacifists. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #134 |
179. Nor are all |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #179 |
220. You're right. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
57. Kick and recofuckingmend! |
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3lyford (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
64. This is similar to Iraq |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:51 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Oh a "no fly zone" yeah, you're right it's all gonna go down now |
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3lyford (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
260. US troops are currently in Kosovo |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #72 |
299. Not quite an invasion but we have troops there |
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Runework (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
66. Oil Companies Want Qadafi Out |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:50 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. He already sold them oil |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Runework, that explains the whole deal. Thanks... |
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Faux pas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:22 AM Response to Original message |
76. i believe in clean up your own backyard first, war is a 'luxury' |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:26 AM Response to Original message |
77. Not more of the "warmonger" vs "Gaddafi-lover" oversimplification. |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
82. Get with the program |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:59 AM Response to Original message |
83. The truly bizarro thing is how Obama going to war seems to be turning |
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PhillySane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
91. Silly Rabbit |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
92. You forget that many DUers supported General Wesley Clark. |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
93. It is sad, isn't it? |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
99. I always thought toe-ing the party line was disgraceful when you believe what they stand for is wron |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #99 |
106. "lots of people will support the president no matter what". Does supporting this UN action equate |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #106 |
115. It seems like you want to debate the new war rather than my comment. |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
100. John Negroponte was cheering on our military actions in Libya |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #100 |
110. Awesome! Here's Gene Robinson's column today. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
101. Great post |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
102. Recommended with sadness n/t |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
104. If it's a Democrat being the Neocon, it's okay. |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
105. I am not pro-war but I am pro-humanitarian aid and if that includes bombing |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
108. When I signed up, DU was filled with progressives who favored international solidarity... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
118. Shhhh, this is one of those "good wars"... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #118 |
121. That's a really daft attitude. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #121 |
127. I'm a pacifist. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #121 |
231. Wars are predecessors to more war |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #231 |
257. I don't think that that is how things work. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #257 |
294. Wars set up the next wars |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 07:59 AM Response to Reply #294 |
311. Ah, hang on. Did you mean "WWI created the nazi problem"? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
122. I haven't changed.. |
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Baclava (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
124. My, you are a brave one. You know the blood lust has taken hold of DU. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Deleted message |
DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #124 |
175. How would you want to accomplish peace when Qaddafi is murdering his people? |
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Baclava (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #175 |
181. 'People' are being slaughtered by their own nations everyday - how many Holy Wars you want? |
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JoseGaspar (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #181 |
199. 1 million dead in the Congo, although it might be 5 million... |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #181 |
200. Oh, we should let them ALL die? Yeah, that will improve things. |
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Baclava (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #200 |
209. WE? Get your cowboy hat and giddy-up. Yee-haw! |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
125. Yes, because all wars are the same, from the Revolution to WWII to Vietnam. |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
131. There was a war - we may have helped to stop it |
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Swampguana (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
132. I don't support |
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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
133. My current personal email sig file |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
137. "Illegal wars based on lies" |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #137 |
144. This is why we couldn't impeach Bush. |
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displacedvermoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
138. But..but..but..... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
141. Deleted message |
Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
142. 2008 = Thank GAWD it passed! 2011 = Thank GAWD we bombed! nt |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
143. The word is "hypocrites". |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
148. I'm not sure |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
150. K and R (nt) |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
152. K n R |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
156. Seriously. It would be absolutely hilarious, if it wasn't so scary. |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #156 |
193. Why are we broke? We have the biggest group of tax-free billionnaires.... |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
157. One of the things I really appreciate about being intelligent |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #157 |
159. Sad dam attacked the Kurds for many years and they begged the world to intervene. |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #159 |
279. Well I remember the pictures of the gassed people |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #157 |
162. Really? |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #162 |
280. and I would have kicked his arse |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:26 PM Response to Reply #280 |
282. You honestly weren't aware were you? |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
166. The United States killing civilians in foreign countries.......... |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
167. Those cheerleading intervention all fail to understand the basic error of their |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
169. You said it, Ripley |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
173. Exactly! War! Good God you'all. What is it good for? |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
177. I believe in what Dennis Kucinich said |
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nonoxy9 (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
182. Amen |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
188. Well, for one thing...Obama didn't tell us no lies. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #188 |
222. mubarak has stepped down |
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displacedvermoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
197. How the fuck are we going to pay for it? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #197 |
296. +1. They never answer this question. |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
204. Yay, Let Them Die! |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #204 |
251. People are dying in Bahrain and Gaza |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
205. What war are you talking about? Obama has not started a war |
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orbitalman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
214. There is slaughter everywhere at different times... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
217. Obama should have asked for the US involvement to be debated in Congress per the Constitution. |
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WiffenPoof (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
219. What I Find Interesting,... |
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G. Odoreida (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
223. But check out these MAJOR differences |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #223 |
230. Plus Libya is in Africa, and Iraq is not. And Qadaffi and Saddam have different fashion styles |
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WHEN CRABS ROAR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
226. So in the end, what is this good for ? Will it change minds ? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
232. What an unfair generalization. There are A LOT of people here who are opposed to |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #232 |
246. Thank you. It's as petty spirited as those saying opposition to bombing is supporting the slaughter |
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Dawning Red (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
233. Here's the problem: |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
237. Come on, Ripley! The people of Iraq need protection |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
238. No "yay" from me. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
240. DU would oppose these actions if they were taken by a puke |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
241. Agreed! x 100 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
243. Ironically, how little we see at DU of posts re the wars and loss of lives -- |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
248. Strawman argument and flamebait. CONGRATS it seems to be working. |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
250. I'm still against wars for oil. |
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carolinayellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
252. Funny how "ignored" often gets first reply |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #252 |
254. Sorry "ignored", I cannot read what you are saying. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
255. Hero worship: idolize: love unquestioningly and uncritically or to excess; |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
256. Back during the Bush years someone posted a link to protest warrior or some |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #256 |
293. was this it? |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
264. Five things |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
267. Boo critical thinking! Nuance sucks! |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
274. I know this pisses some people off. |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
276. How DARE you speak the truth! Why are so many ObamaBots climbing aboard the war wagon? |
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roberto IS beto (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
278. I am opposed to U.S. involvement in any foreign war |
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rtassi (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
281. Yes, and all it took was a couple of news cycles, to get everyone |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
284. there are far too many democrats, especially in govt,.... |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #284 |
302. or just hate "republican" wars (nt) |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 04:58 AM Response to Reply #302 |
341. imperialism is bipartisan u.s. foreign policy. |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
285. Yay Rip! |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
286. it has always made me wonder why these arm chair warriors don't join the military |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #286 |
329. If that were required of war supporters... |
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IndyJones (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
288. Why the humanitarian concern over Libya when thousands are |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
289. 208 recs? Thank you DU. Was really beginning to wonder about this place n/t |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
295. Dont forget CENTCOM personas troll these boards... |
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SylviaD (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
297. This is exactly what I don't understand. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
303. there's a handful of PR shills here who parrot the DLC, inside the beltway line and they know how to |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #303 |
336. Oh please. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #336 |
366. So those left of the DLC figured out a way to rig this DU poll? |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
304. "The manipulative pro-war argument in Libya" |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
330. Would you rather it be "YAY let the people suffer and die"?! |
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IndyJones (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #330 |
338. Why not start by asking our neighbors in Mexico how it feels |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #338 |
346. Right, because the two cases are exactly the same... |
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IndyJones (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #346 |
348. I believe it's you who should do the reading. We are helping because of |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #348 |
357. Where is the uprising wherein people are gathered en mass... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
339. What war "Obama is getting us involved in another one"? What war? |
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3lyford (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #339 |
345. The country is involved in two wars already |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #345 |
347. Thanks for the reply, am 1 of those adamantly against draft, what new war is Obama getting us into? |
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3lyford (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #347 |
349. These no fly zones have a way of being inneffective |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #349 |
350. Thanks for the clarification |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #349 |
358. So, you object due to the hypothetical situation you fear... |
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3lyford (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #358 |
360. The repeating of history |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #360 |
361. Here, let me help you with that... |
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3lyford (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #361 |
364. Yes, no way of knowing |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #347 |
354. Uh, Libya |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #354 |
363. Uh, thanks. I didn't know President Obama was getting us involved, thought it was the UN |
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3lyford (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #363 |
368. Is this sarcasm? |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
343. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
352. You've got that right... |
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