Anyone here think that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Gonzales and Yoo

[tavalon]

should be indicted and prosecuted for war crimes in violating those quaint Geneva conventions?


PS: Read my response to the first poster (who just happened to be the first person to agree with my obviously correct question) before you decide to recommend this post. You might not like it as much as you think you do.

[rosesaylavee]

1. Yes. Always have.

[tavalon]

2. Good

Who should be prosecuted for war crimes and violations of those quaint Geneva conventions in the following scenario?:

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE72K6TL20110321?WT.tsrc=Social%20Media&ca=rdt

[hack89]

13. The soldiers that actually committed the war crimes?

unless you have proof that Obama, Biden, Cheney and Gates knew of and authorized these crimes?

The Army is going to throw these guys in a jail for the rest of their lives - what more do you want?

[tavalon]

14. I want a full investigation

You know there are 4000 pictures, just like at Abu Ghraib. And the crime is that the pictures were exposed more than the heinous and systemic abuse and murder they show. Abu Ghraib turned out to not just be a few bad apples and I suspect this won't be all that different.

[StarburstClock]

19. "Unless you have proof", LMFAO!

The proof has been published 1000s of times regarding a WMD conspiracy to commit war, torture camps, terrorizing American citizens with false terror alerts, etc...

"I NEED PROOF", Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[hack89]

21. So Obama and Biden lied about WMDs? nt

[tavalon]

16. Thank you for being the jumping off point for what I think is just

hypocrisy. I'm heading to bed now. See ya this afternoon.

[rosesaylavee]

18. I don't understand?

You think I am being hypocritical?

[tavalon]

22. No, no, no

As I revised in my first post, I used your post as the jumping off point to make the point that we are hypocritical if we demand war crimes tribunals for the people who allowed Abu Ghraib but pretend that what just happened in Afghanistan is in any way different and to pretend that it's just "a few bad apples" at the bottom rather than as before, demanding war crimes tribunals for this administration.

I've been seeing more hypocrisy than democracy on this board of late. You were just the first to respond so I used your post as the jumping off point. Most people still missed my point.

But it wasn't specifically you.

[rosesaylavee]

23. Oh ok.

I get it now. I think we have let too many of these high crimes slide by unaddressed starting with Nixon - thru Iran Contra, the stolen election, Abu Ghraib, and this. If crimes are committed, no one is above the law or the law means nothing.

I think I am beginning to understand that the law means nothing. It's taken me a few decades to get that.

[cowcommander]

3. Don't forget Blair

[DCKit]

4. Yoo wasn't the only lawyer, either. Douglas Feith is one of two or three others.

And the planners... that whole PNAC gang.

[tavalon]

6. I suspect it might seem that my OP was about the war crimes of the Bush administration

and don't get me wrong, I will never forgive or forget what they did. But the real question is actually in my response to the first poster.

[tavalon]

11. So which gang is it this time?

[tavalon]

12. I'm sure there are a host of new lawyers assuring Obama that

what happened in Afghanistan is just a case of a few bad apples and aren't really war crimes and that well, those Geneva conventions are just quaint.

[dkofos]

5. Absolutely

And a few hundred other war criminals.

[Angry Dragon]

7. YES

[NightWatcher]

8. for violating which conventions? torture, rendition,...

[tavalon]

9. Oh, all those,

but I was actually thinking about Abu Ghraib when I posted that. I'm having a really bad case of deja vu.

[liberal N proud]

10. But of course they should

[OnyxCollie]

15. Yes.

I don't think their enablers should escape punishment, either.

[OwnedByFerrets]

17. When you break laws, there should be a penalty. Let the penalty

match the severity of the crime.

[FiveGoodMen]

20. Yup. Count me in!

Now, who can we put in power that will give a rat's ass about it?

Because we don't have anyone like that now!