OUTSOURCING Caused State Deficits, NOT The UNIONS

[Segami]

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The American population is beginning to awaken to the harm corporations have done to the American worker by shipping our jobs to low wage countries like China and India. The outsourcing of American manufacturing has put a damper on our state budgets. The budget deficits are not caused by unions and their pay packages as the conservatives want you to believe, it is simply caused by lack of jobs. Every time a factory closes, it reduces revenue going to the state, and ultimately causes deficits. In the last ten years 2001-2011 the United States has lost 58,000 factories.



According to Alliance for American Manufacturing,



1. The U.S. lost at least $245 billion in manufacturing wages in the last decade due to 5.5 million lost manufacturing jobs. That doesn’t even include the “ripple effect” through other sectors.

2. Ending China’s currency manipulation would create more than 1 million jobs, add to economic growth, and reduce the budget deficit by $500 billion over the next six years.

3. If California had held its share of manufacturing jobs from 2000-2007, its state budget would be in balance.



Unfortunately there are those who still adhere and believe the conservative free trade mantra is good for everyone. The Wall Street Journal editorial board sides with the World trade Organization and Communist China over American businesses and workers. In the editorial WSJ states;



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http://www.politicususa.com/en/outsourcing-state-deficits



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[dkf]

1. If Americans preferred goods made in America over cheap goods produced elsewhere the jobs might

Still be here.

When do we begin to realize the problem is us? Do we pay more so that people can make a decent living or do we get the cheapest deal so they can't?

People don't want to even pay more for organic food, which is healthier for everyone.

[disillusioned73]

6. When jobs are outsourced & wages become stagnant...

Americans will buy what they can AFFORD.

[Lorien]

8. Blanket statements don't apply. There's a huge demand for "made in the USA" products

and organic foods. The organic section at my local grocer grows every month. And many people I know-even some conservatives-have sworn off Walmart because they are sick of buying Chinese made goods and they are going out of their way to Buy American.

[BobbyBoring]

19. There's also

Millions of people who have no idea what organic food is, much less be able to afford it with the whopping $213.49 they take home from their low paying job.

We're caught in the ultimate circle jerk. As much as I hate to say it, one gets a pretty good idea of what the "Average American" has been reduced to by visiting Walmart. People that are too fat to walk clogging up the aisles on their scooters looking for the best deal on potato chips and cookies.

Sad~~~~~~~~~~

[Scuba]

2. Actually, it was this lady, spotted in Madison ...

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[revolutionnow45]

5. Finally someone speaks the truth about the underlying cause of our problems here

One more HUGE factor- health insurance companies are robbing us blind.

Insurance companies take as much as a full salary of a starting teacher every year. They get paid the same amount as a teacher....for nothing! It is so outrageous. Every year it goes up 30% with no end in sight.

Single payer would have helped every state budget.

[Lorien]

10. True! Jobs like mine depend on the middle and working classes having disposable

incomes-and obviously they have shrunk hugely in the past ten years. The "ripple effect" caused by outrageously expensive health insurance costs is devastating, as is lack of access to health care for those of us who can't afford it.

[Segami]

12. Single payer would have helped every American and each state's economy period!

[redeye59]

17. Finally someone speaks the truth about the underlying cause of our problems

What happened to the Doctor and care takers who vowed to a code to help all in need? GREED, thats what. I have heard more and more young people who are going to school to be a health professional say, its for the money. I never hear its to help those in need and to be there for the fellow man. GREED, and its going to get worse. Hospitals charge more than they need to on everything, they even charge you for things not used when you have a stay in one. Then if you call to fight the bill, they make you feel like trash and fight you on removing the bed pan charges when you could make it to bathroom and never used the dan pan at all.
Medicines are so over priced when you really need them to survive, but lets just give pain killers out at give away cost and to hell with the guy who cannot afford his heart meds and will slowly suffer from it. Who cares??? Not our government, as they have their greedy fingers in it all and only see $$$ signs, not the grave markers they create by screwing over its own citizens.

America, land of the free and definatly screwed.

[Mojorabbit]

24. Hospitals used to be nonprofit

or owned by groups of docs, now they are all owned by huge corporations. You can't come out of medical school anymore and start a private practice as your debt is too huge so you go to work for the corporations and have to toe the line as to standards. It has ruined medicine.

[Kablooie]

7. So how many proposals to limit or control outsourcing have you heard? None!

All I've heard is that it's inevitable so don't pay any attention.

Anything that increases corporate bottom lines, no matter what the damage to the country, is sacred and can not even be considered.


Pay no attention to that elephant behind the curtain!

(and the donkey's next to him, smiling, and watching him work.)

[ItNerd4life]

9. So true and so sad. nt

[moondust]

20. Only one that I've heard of.

http://www.economyincrisis.org/content/schumer-introduces-bill-curtailing-call-center-outsourcing


I don't know what ever happened to it.

[daa]

11. And states are among the GUILTY

They send the jobs to India and then wonder why the people they fired aren't paying any taxes. I have always said since my job went to India in 2002, that Indians don't pay social security, Medicare, income tax, state tax or anyone other sales and use tax to this country or state. And we wonder why our economy has collapsed?

[Segami]

13. If you're looking for traitors, look no further than the republican whore sellouts who carried out

their corporate master's wishes.

[OhioChick]

15. You're absolutely right. n/t

[Snoutport]

14. thanks for sharing nt

[redeye59]

16. Out sourced jobs

If the US business would just pay our citizens a decent wage and keep the jobs here at home, we would not be so far in debt and have so many unemployed here at home.
Sickens me that greed is what its all about and the US citizens again pay for it. How do we survive with no jobs? Move to another country so we can work?
The USA is not what I was taught to believe as a child, its gotten so rotten with greedy business and republicans.
What happened to our democracy?????
Bet it was sent to another country....

[Urban Prairie]

18. Domino effect and investor demand for quick and profitable returns on investments

If one company who makes a mousetrap decides to cut costs and overhead, as well as increase profits by off-shoring their manufacture, and then sell the mousetraps at a 20% lower price to consumers, than every other US mousetrap manufacturer is selling them for, then it forces the others into off-shoring their manufacturing as well, else lose most if not all market share. People do want sturdily-made mousetraps, that will continue to function as intended, but if needing to replace them more frequently becomes cheaper than buying one that lasts longer and is still made in the US, well...duh!!

The so called global "free market" really exists in principle, only in the US, and to a lesser degree, the other "free-world" countries. All others, as well as some in the free world, may actively participate in global trade, but their governments restrict and control imports, as well as tax the profits/sales/products/services from foreign businesses, manufacturing, and industry that operates within their country, but expect the US to continue to allow them to export their products and services here, w/o tariffs or restrictions. I am all for trade, but it should be fair, and not one-sidedly free. Our leaky and loophole-filled US tax code permits foreign businesses and manufacturers who have a physical presence in the US, to evade/avoid paying taxes in the US just as easily as our own have.

That said, the recent SCOTUS ruling that permits corporate personhood makes it that much more unlikely that the US trade imbalance, as well as outsourcing, off-shoring, and mergers/monopolization will ever be addressed, much less acted on, and will increase unabated. Might as well accept the fact that our representatives in local, state, and federal, levels, as well as our judicial system is and will continue to increasingly be co-opted, corrupted, and controlled, unless we of the great unwashed launch a rebellion/revolt someday, but by then we may be too weak to do anything but try to survive, and it will be every man and woman for him/herself, and the US will become a 21st century version of the Middle Ages, with a feudal economy/lifestyle comprised of "wealthy lords and poor serfs" with no "middle class" buffer in-between them.

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[pacalo]

22. Taking away Americans' jobs & giving them to other countries is treason, imo.

[snot]

23. The heading gave me an idea: I wonder how much was caused by privatizing?

In every case I'm aware of, the private company ends up costing states a lot more for the same work, just as contractors hired in our current wars have been much more expensive than if we'd had soldiers do the work as we have in prior wars.