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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:56 PM Original message |
Who exactly are the Libyan rebels? Do we have any clue who exactly we're trying to help here? |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Don't ask me |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. Perhaps Osama bin Laden and his friends, but you are the first to ask. |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. My guess is that they're just people who want democratic rights |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. That pretty optimistic considering what little is known about that |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. We know what happened in neighboring countries like Tunisia and Egypt |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I don't think we can begin to make any conclusions about any of these places |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Why shouldn't they have a voice? |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. OBL the next? |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. I believe they are... |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. except they are armed and are based away from the capital |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. They are all over Libya |
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Shiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. They didn't start armed. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. thanks |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. That's one of the Million Dollar Questions in this whole thing. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. There are many groups in opposition. |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. You've stated it clearly; and the objectives question is one that is causing |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. The arab protesters in general want democracy |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I agree; I really hope they get it. I just wonder what it will look like. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. How do we know? And what is "democracy?" |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:45 PM Original message |
Some teabaggers compare Obama to Hitler |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
37. I agree with you. |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
11. According to this video of Benghazi |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. No one really knows for sure, but Hillary Clinton met with 2 leaders |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
13. Who EXACTLY was the French Resistance? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Or, the Confederate Army? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. But they were very easily known. They had a clear leadership with very clearly abhorrent goals. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. How about the Contras? UNITA? Or, the Freedom Fighters in Afghanistan? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. You're right of course. Libya IS Nicaragua. Libya is Angola -AND- Afghanistan in the 1970s and 80s |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Does that mean that anything that Gaddhafi has done in the past is off the table? |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. FFS, anyone asking these questions isn't on Gaddafi's side either. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
17. Here's some info from the Libyan threads joshcryer is doing |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. thanks |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
20. Who exactly are the Libyan people? Do we have any clue who exactly we're trying to help here? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. not the same thing and definitely |
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Travelman (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
24. I wish to hell I knew. |
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revolutionnow45 (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
27. Doesn't anyone here read Twitter? See for yourself! |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. No I don't generally read twitter |
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Baclava (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
29. Does it matter? We'll arm them this time, then come back and kill them later if need be. |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
30. Who exactly are the pro-Gaddafi fighters? Do we have any FACTS of just anti-Gaddafi propaganda? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I don't support Gaddafi but I don't trust the mainstream media or the military industrial complex |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
32. oh they're folks from an area of the nation |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. are you serious or joking? |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. of course it's true... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Yes, they're the second biggest source of "foreign fighters" after Saudi (nt) |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
40. Just FYI: Arabs who want secular democracy and Al Quaida HATE, HATE, HATE each other. |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The Libyan rebellion is NOT "Arab Spring" protest. It is a factional struggle rooted |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. same as reply to #43 |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Historically, the anti-Gaddafi faction was Islamic and extreme and critisized Gaddafi |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. "Historical" references have little relevance today, to rebels who are YOUNG. |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. The current "rebel" leaders are much more 'savvy' in PR than the muribund pro-Gaddafi hacks |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. Diane Rehm had an excellent show March 9th about Libya and intervening. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. Many are veterans of the Iraq insurgency |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. then there is this: |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
50. We don't know. We're just placing the most powerful military the world has ever seen at their ... |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. it may be even worse-- |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
56. people who are tired of living under the thumb of the almighty colonel |
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