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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:39 PM Original message |
Today's activists are so fearful of the right wing that they give Obama a pass on almost every issue |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's part of why the other side routinely wins -- we hold no one accountable for anything |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. 'Oh, you just want President Palin!!!1' |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. "activists" must've been "so fearful of the right wing" that "they" gave Bill Clinton "a pass" too |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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xphile (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. Actually the arguments used to give Clinton a pass are the same arguments |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Really? Prove it. |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Sure! |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Thanks, Joey T |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #54 |
69. The post was about the "Last Two Years" |
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stillwaiting (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 07:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
65. You're not imagining the vitriolic garbage being thrown at Obama. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. Same activists who consistently & coherently spoke out against Bush |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. +1 |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. I don't think you can call 24/7 naysayers with antipathy to a personality "activists". |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Yes, in fact, you can because a personality is not central |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I disagree. But shouldn't you also be saying this to Catherina in Reply 4? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
76. Catherina is saying the same thing I am, I believe. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
68. isn't that bigotry? Predjuce? What about the fact that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. No, it's not bigotry or prejudice to consider an issue directly |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
70. Excellent point. n/t |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. I WANT Obama to fight for something.......... |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Very true. The party faithful aren't "activists". They just want their team |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. You're insulting Democrats who support the Democratic Party and this President. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Your concern for civility would carry more weight if you could express without direct insults, |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I spoke the truth. Blaming the victim is not evidence of personal responsibility. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. That's a distinctly partisan sentiment, in my humble opinion. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Being an activist and partisan are not mutually exclusive, as Google proves. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. A biting argument. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Facts are difficult to deny except if one is in denial. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. This is silly. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You may disagree, but that doesn't negate the fact that Democratic activists do indeed exist. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. I consider them partisans, not activists. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. The liberals, like me, you're complaining about aren't |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I never mentioned you or "liberals" and I wasn't "complaining". |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I took that |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Really? I saw "thinly veiled swipes" at Obama supporters on this site. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. I'm sure |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. You're incorrect in your interpretation, as I am a liberal myself. |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #41 |
73. Uh huh. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 12:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
63. indeed. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Yep. Well said. n/t |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. To the point. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
74. +2 nt |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. If this is true, then those people who give... |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. You are exaclty right. Well said. |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't like some of the stuff that democrats are doing |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. But then our only selling point is "Vote us, we're not Republicans!" |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
9. When one adheres to principles rather than personalities |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. Excellent Must read OP as usual, Bluebear |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
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Sivart (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
15. hello......the draft |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. You think 60's activists were against war only because they were being drafted? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. I can tell you from personal experience, it sure lit a fire under some |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. Yep. And, they trot out Sarah Palin to shout "Boo!" at them. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. There Is Much To Fear from the Right Wing In This Nation |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. There are lot of thing to fear from both wings of the corporate party, yes. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. And The Only Counter Balance Is A Strong, Politically Vibrant Left of Center Party |
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CrossChris (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. The GOP has put billions into psych research and thinktanks to help make this happen. |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
23. No activist is told how to think and thinks that way. They call that a sheep. nt |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. Almost? (nt) |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. recommend |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
27. Since when? There are complaints directed at this President on nearly every issue 24/7. |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
29. Thanks Bluebear! n/t |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
30. mr shaw should visit du, Obama never gets a pass here. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. lolol |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
32. It's getting to the point that the American people will enjoy being lead to their death if the |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Don't know where we're headed, but we sure are making good time. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
34. Obama is getting such a free ride by the left n/t |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. you forgot the sarcasm tag- |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
39. maybe they decided that fighting the democratic president wasn't working |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. Precisely the point of the article. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. lolol! Shaw has clearly never read HuffPo, AMERICAblog, Glenn Greenwald, David Sirota or DU. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
58. I'm an activist but none of those descriptions fit me. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. +1 |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
62. K&R |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
64. Doobie Brother's Taking it to the Streets works for me. C'mon on... |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
66. R'd |
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