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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:38 PM
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As of today, S. Dakota has effectively banned abortion
they've made it so onerous that few women will be able to avail themselves of an abortion within the state- and it was already hard enough with only two facilities providing abortion services. Let's hope for a swift injunction against this law


By Amanda Paulson, Staff writer / March 22, 2011

South Dakota today became the first state in the country to require women seeking an abortion to visit anti-abortion counseling centers.


Gov. Dennis Daugaard (R) signed legislation that is precedent-setting in several ways. It also mandates a 72-hour waiting period – the longest in the country – and requires two visits to a physician and a screening for risk factors, in addition to the visit to a pregnancy crisis center.

“I think everyone agrees with the goal of reducing abortion by encouraging consideration of other alternatives,” Governor Daugaard said in a written statement. “I hope that women who are considering an abortion will use this three-day period to make good choices.”

Planned Parenthood announced before the bill was signed that it would file a lawsuit.

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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0322/South-Dakota-anti-abortion-law-breaks-new-ground
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:41 PM
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1. First of all, Daugaard, you don't know the meaning of the word "think".
You also don't understand privacy, women, minding your own fucking business, or the fact that women don't need your fucking condescension and little "lessons" about how to control their own bodies.

GOD, I hate these repukes.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:41 PM
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2. Indiana is taking a smaller but similar step -- requiring doctors to lie about the health risks
We are losing our way.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:42 PM
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3. This will probably go all the way to the Supreme Court
I don't know what will happen then, unless those crooks that are currently getting rear ended by the tea party are finally disbarred are thrown out on their asses.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:52 PM
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10. I wonder if that was the intent.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:11 PM
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23. If so, I think the anti-rights forces made an error.
I believe the court would restrict the range of available restrictions. One good result of Obama's election.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:45 PM
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4. Good choices
being adoption or having the child? Who is he to say that an abortion is a bad choice?
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:49 PM
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8. He believes he is Gods chosen one,
just like every other Republican.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:45 PM
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5. This isn't over
Here's hoping that a measure of sanity will prevail in the judicial system.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:45 PM
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6. Time for another contribution to Planned Parenthood.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:47 PM
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7. How can they require you to go to a fake clinic?
Are there any standards for these "anti-abortion counseling centers"? Any regulations? What's to keep them from charging exorbitant fees, thereby effectively denying poor women access to abortion? :banghead:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:04 PM
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15. They Are Probably Run by Churches
which would violate the establishment clause of the 1st Amendment.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:06 PM
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16. Most of them incorporate as nonprofits
with cutesy little names like "Birthright". :puke: The $$$ trail leads to churches, of course, but that probably won't stop them. :eyes:
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:26 PM
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26. They offer free services, for a price
Many of these centers are actually linked to pro-life adoption mills, which is where they make their money. For instance,

http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/02/adoption_rings
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:51 PM
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27. You might be interested to know that rabid La. anti-choicer Woody Jenkins ran an adoption mill
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 06:52 PM by KamaAina
er, excuse me, "home for unwed mothers". It was located just far enough outside NOLA that buses didn't run there, so when pregnant young women got there, they were basically traspped. :puke:
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:57 PM
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29. Haven't run across him yet
Thank heaven.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:15 PM
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31. Hopefully he's retired
that was twenty some-odd years ago. Ick. :puke:
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:04 PM
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28. human trafficking n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:52 PM
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9. How to increase the supply of young, nubile prostitutes.
Force young, uneducated girls to leave their homes, families, friends to seek appropriate care in other places, where predators wait to befriend the friendless and desperate.

Funny how these bills are passed by ugly old men who have to pay for it.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:56 PM
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11. What makes that state so goddamned backwards?
I just don't get it. The folks that live there don't appear to be that fucking regressive...
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:05 PM
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22. at least its more liberal than North Dakota.
rural states are just naturally more culturally and socially backwards, practically by definition. Can anyone name a country where the rural population is more liberal than the urban population?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:07 AM
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33. Yeah, that's true I suppose..it's just such a shame..I like the state itself..
..drove through there in my way to Yellowstone last year and loved it..
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:18 PM
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12. Let's support the lawsuit.
And note how much SD will pay to oppose the lawsuit.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:35 PM
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13. Every day there is some new Repuke asshole to hate
like poison. I am starting to run out of energy.

Gads how I despise these fascist asshats.
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:36 PM
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14. SD's next law: banning the dropping off of infants at the Gov. mansion. n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:15 PM
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17. South Dakota.. a place that loves the 50's so much they're going back
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:19 PM
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18. Well, maybe all those S.D. women who VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS will stop doing that.
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 05:20 PM by Tesha
Doing so would almost-guarantee that these policies
would change.

But I wouldn't count on it happening.

Tesha
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:41 PM
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19. how sad.
what is the "screening for risk factors" business?" can the state really mandate this?
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:49 PM
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20. F***ing Paul LePage (Gov. of ME) attended an anti-abortion rally...
as one of his first acts as Governor!!! Still... I think he isn't going to go there. I think he is all about monetary kick backs for himself and his buds and the social stuff is a show.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:54 PM
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21. So much for smaller government aye....
that law is a complete invasion of privacy; it is none of the government business why a woman has chose to have an abortion and there are more than enough medical reasons to have one as well.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:15 PM
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24. They think women just mindlessly choose abortion?
Oh lets see what am I going to do today, buy a new dress, meet my BF for lunch, oh and get an abortion?

They think women aren't considering options and "alternatives" right up to the procedure? What complete bullshit. I hope every pro-rights group in the world sues the shit out of them. I'm sending a donation to PP right now.



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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:22 PM
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25. Apparently women just cant get enough of morning sickness, backaches,...
...tired feet, having to pee a lot, and all the other joys of pregnancy, and actually having a baby would just slow down the joyride.

:sarcasm:
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 08:21 PM
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30. Anyone else notice that these draconian laws...
are first approved in states that have lost much of their population to other places?

Rural areas mostly, really sparsely populated.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:17 PM
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32. And who is gonna run these "counselling centres"?
I have a feeling it'll be representatives of the baby jeebus
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:19 AM
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34. Wow, apparently they think women are mindless idiots who need to be supervised.
If this isn't government intrusion on the privacy of citizens I don't know what is. And they call themselves Republicans.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:25 AM
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35. I would hope female board members would be pushing to move business out of South Dakota. nt
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:28 AM
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36. But... but... bureaucrats between a woman and her doctor...
:sarcasm:



I'll note that the waiting period for buying a handgun in South Dakota is 48 hours, and of buying a rifle or shotgun 0 hours.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 11:40 AM
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37. What do they do if a woman goes elsewhere to have an abortion? Do they jail her when she returns?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 11:42 AM
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38. So much for smaller, less regulative, less intrusive government, right?
:eyes:
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 11:44 AM
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39. I expect, then, that we'll see greater access to birth control and laws
making it easier to adopt unwanted children.

Oh, wait, that won't happen.
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