$2.2 million fatwa on Terry Jones after Quran burning

[n2doc]

Terry Jones, the Florida evangelical pastor who threatened to hold a Quran burning last Sept. 11 only to back down in the face of international outrage, finally went ahead and burned one.

And now there's a 2.2-million-dollar price on his head.

Jones appointed himself "judge" and presided over a trial hearing evidence and testimony against Islam's holy book. A "jury" found the book guilty of crimes against humanity; promoting terrorist acts; raping, torturing and killing people "whose only crime was not being of the Islamic faith." Also, its treatment of women was found lacking.

Interestingly, lethal injection and electrocution, the two forms of capital punishment in Florida, were not offered to the convicted holy book. Instead, an online Facebook poll picked the sentence from these choices - burning, shredding, drowning or firing squad. Burning won.

Sentence was carried out by soaking the convicted in kerosene, placing it a metal tray and igniting it with a barbecue lighter. Thirty people witnessed the execution.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/hottopics/detail?entry_id=85519

[cali]

1. he's a hateful idiot. still, I hope no harm comes to him- less for him

than for what would happen if he is killed because of a fatwah.

[Posteritatis]

2. Bit of a coward, too, doing his big provocative act after people stopped caring. (nt)

[bluestate10]

14. The people that are going to come after Jones are fringe people

that know no reason. I wish your desire is what happens, but I am afraid the pastor has signed his death warrant. Not that signing one's death warrant is not a noble act, but the hatefulness with which Jones acted is infinitely far from noble.

[Fuzz]

3. Religious idiots on both sides.

[sakabatou]

4. +1

[n2doc]

7. yep

[msongs]

5. ain't religion wonderful nt

[arbusto_baboso]

6. Y'know, if a similar "trial" were held for The Bible...

It would reach a similar end. Too bad that fuckwit doesn't know it.

[Rage for Order]

11. Actually, it's already occurred

But nobody issued a fatwa or declared a $2.2 million bounty for the people who burned the bible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anl2GKVcPTk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3gtvbR3n9g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIANNFiFkWQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwnMfZqCZKI&feature=related

[WatsonT]

18. Doesn't that happen all the time?

Just call it art and you're fine.

Sorry but the responses aren't equivalent.

[arbusto_baboso]

20. I never said the responses were equivalent.

A Fatwah is absolutely ridiculous.

But as my mother always told me, when you know what a bear can do and you keep poking it with a stick, you can't really complain when it turns around and rips your head. Moral: Don't poke the fucking bear with a fucking stick.

[WatsonT]

21. I see

sounds kind of like rewarding this behavior to me.

People aren't bears, we can be held accountable for our actions. And if the moral is: don't ever criticize people who fly off the handle and kill you, instead criticize those who will take it and do nothing, well that's a shitty moral.

Like turning a blind eye to neo-nazis because they're scary, and then going over to make fun of the Amish because they won't fight back.

Granted that's safer, but are you really making the world a better place?

[arbusto_baboso]

22. Wow, you do like to put words in my mouth, don't you?

My point is that the Fatwah was issued outside of our borders, where our law has no power or influence.

I do not condone it. I absolutely abhor it (you suggesting I believe otherwise is actually a much milder form of the thing you SAY you are condemning...).

But what exactly do you suggest, Oh Wise One, is to be done to "fight back" in this case? Shall we call out the B-2s and cruise missiles for this, too?

[WatsonT]

30. That's what you said

"Don't poke the bear" in this context means don't provoke people who might actually hurt you. In other words: giving in to their violent rhetoric.

"My point is that the Fatwah was issued outside of our borders, where our law has no power or influence."

But it would have to be carried out here, where are laws do have power and influence.

"But what exactly do you suggest, Oh Wise One, is to be done to "fight back" in this case? Shall we call out the B-2s and cruise missiles for this, too?"

How do you fight back against threats to free speech? You keep saying what you want, without fear.

[Ship of Fools]

8. Karma's a bitch, asshole

[dembotoz]

9. there has to be a great syfy network movie in here somewhere

hell i might even open up a brew and watch it.

[thereismore]

10. So he took the free car (gave it to charity) and burned the book anyway. nt

[lunatica]

12. Oops! He'll now spend the rest of his life fearing imminent death

Didn't think about that didya Terry Jones?! There is no undoing an issued Fatwa.

[Rage for Order]

13. Do you think he deserves to have to fear for his life because he burned a book?

:shrug:

[lunatica]

15. Did I say he deserves it? All I said was there's no undoing a Fatwa

:scared:

[Rage for Order]

16. No, you didn't, but your answer was a bit ambiguous so I thought I'd ask

He's a dick, obviously, but people who want to kill people because they burned a book are much worse, imo

[WatsonT]

17. It occurs to me that most people don't change from kindergarten

the stakes get higher, but the mentality remains.

Both those burning korans for political purposes and those issuing fatwas should be sent to live on a deserted island somewhere and leave the rest of us alone.

[PCIntern]

19. Well, it's a new one: suicide-by-Koran-burning

Moranic.

[Arugula Latte]

23. Wow. He'll never have a night of sound sleep for the rest of his life.

[Bucky]

24. He's like the Victoria Jackson of "Monty Python." How sad.

I keed, I keed

[pokerfan]

26. Monty Python?

Isn't that a different Terry Jones? :shrug:

[deutsey]

35. Yes.

[hfojvt]

25. unfortunately that only proves him right

Jones: Islam promotes hate and violence.

Fatwa: We will kill you.

Funny thing about the Koran. I notice that at the start of every chapter it says "In the name of God, the compassionate, the merciful".

Probably should say Allah, but that's what I get for having an English translation.

Allah, besides being compassionate and merciful, should also be powerful enough that he does not need your help or my help in dealing with this foolish man.

[Modern_Matthew]

27. Ignorance vs. Ignorance. nt

[Ezlivin]

28. If I got the Quran as an app and then deleted it

would that count against me?

If Terry Jones had only burned half of it, would he only be up for a $1.1M fatwa?

So many theological questions, so little time...

[Bragi]

29. This is a "bounty", not a fatwa

This is badly reported. My reading on Islam indicates that a "fatwa" can only be issued by a limited number of very high religious authorities, and I don't think a fatwa ever involves monetary rewards.

This $2.2 million "reward" is a "bounty" placed on Jones' head by a radical Islamic terrorist group. It has no religious authority.

As for the role of the Pakistani President in this matter, I think the U.S needs to give him a big thanks for raising Jones idiotic act from the obscurity it merited, and that it had hitherto received from the world press.

As for the fate of the idiot preacher, whatever happens to him, he does not deserve death or any harm for legally exercising, even offensively, his First Amendment right to free expression as an American citizen.

Period.

And this time, the U.S may actually have to make the matter of what American-style free speech means to the Muslim world, which is something the Obama administration did its best to avoid doing last September, when Jones first visited the global stage.

[Ikonoklast]

31. Haters hating other haters for hating.

All in the name of God who loves us all...except you, there.

You, he told me to hate.

[kentauros]

33. "Jesus Loves Me But He Can't Stand You"

Austin Lounge Lizards - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbvrRct-TXc

:P

[Taitertots]

32. Where are the moderate Muslims standing up against this?

When will some Muslims stand up to stop the violent extremism being done in their name.

[closeupready]

34. I condemn all death threats. Separately,

how much taxpayer money is going to be used to provide him with personal security? If any, is he going to be invoiced to pay that back?