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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:32 PM
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well,F&^@. ... anyone want to help me comment on THIS LTTE?
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 04:36 PM by w8liftinglady
edit- sorry for cussing...


http://www.thedailylight.com/articles/2011/03/22/opinion/doc4d88fe5f2ee18151431310.txt

Most Republican leaders know that it was the radical agenda of Senator Harry Reid, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Barack Obama which did more to give them major victories in November 2010 than any deep affection for the GOP. The hope of the President is that he will be able to win back the independent voters by making a few, rare, steps in the direction of the public appearance of moderation. Maybe it will work and maybe not.

Here are solid reasons why independent voters, any conservative and moderate Democrats left in the country, and even the more secular among Republicans, will advantage the nation by supporting a bigtime Republican victory in 2012:

1). The economy will improve enormously by the fact that a bigtime Republican victory will reverse the treacherous ban on domestic offshore oil drilling, which forces Americans to pay more at the pump every time someone belches loudlly in the Middle East;

2). The opportunity will finally come for Americans, through the cooperation of excellent private social agencies, business leaders and state government elected officials, to dump the nightmare of Obamacare and build a series of practical reforms that makes access to topnotch care within the reach of absolutely every working American!;

3). Abortion will cease to be a taxpayer funded business scam;

4). States will be able to carry out their functions in accountability to their respective citizens without fear that the federal Department of Justice will sue them;

5). The housing market will no longer be in the hands of people who abuse sound business practices in order to buy votes;

6). Union membership will not be forced upon working folks who do not want their paychecks docked to support the Democratic Party;

7). States will resolve many social issues without unconstitutional and unwanted tyranny by federal beaurocrats;

8). Citizens who disagree with socialism will not be under the threat of ending their First Amendment liberty when it comes to who they want to listen to on the radio;

9). For the first time, Americans will actually have serious conversations about dissolving whole agencies of the federal government which are either unnecessary or else duplicate what is done by state governments; and

10). The poor will find new exciting possibilities without owing their souls to Big Government politicians. Finally, the poor among God’s children in this wonderful American family will not be enslaved to sadistic manipulators of their problems in order to advantage themselves with more power!

Paul Richard Strange Sr.,

Waxahachie

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:33 PM
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1. "I cancel my subscription."
:shrug:
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:35 PM
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2. lol...nahhhh they print MINE,too
but,seriously...any help rebutting this with fact will at least make me feel better!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:36 PM
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5. Seriously.
"I cancel my subscription."
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:35 PM
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3. The victories were handed to the republicans because of the rights portrayal
of Reid, Pelosi, Obama and all Democrats.

With the help of their "liberal media" they painted the picture that the Democrats were destroying the country. But in fact it is the Republicans who are doing the destruction.

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:35 PM
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4. "The Stupid In This Letter is Unequivocal"
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:36 PM
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6. WOW. That's a whole clean coal train load of stupid
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:38 PM
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7. two readers DID reply... there is hope in red hell yet!
owlnwaxa wrote on Mar 22, 2011 3:49 PM:

" Gee ,God allowed republican victories in 2000,2004. What happened to the economy till 2008? Thank you for your input,Mr.Strange.Namaste. "



gohogs wrote on Mar 22, 2011 3:58 PM:

" Why weren't all these wonderful things done when GW Bush was in office for 8 years??? Just curious.... "

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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:42 PM
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8. Listen to this guy -- a brave survivor of the war on Christmas who almost didn't make it
The dude knows his shit.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:44 PM
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9. Quite a "Strange" letter. . .
truly a "Senior" moment come to print. . .
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:46 PM
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10. I would focus on the word "radical"
and do a comparative description of what is really "radical".
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:49 PM
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11. sorry but he is right
Maybe you have forgotten the glorious years of 2001-2009 when all of that was true, but not everyone has.


Easiest rebuttal to some ridiculous promises of a glorious Republican future. Simply remember the inglorious Republican past. Republicans already had six years to deliver their pie in the sky to America. What did they give us? Two rounds of tax cuts for the rich, two wars that we are still in, and a collapsed economy.

Yeah, sure, let's bring back the wrecking crew, they'll fix things.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:49 PM
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12. number one is so wrong, what's the point? this person is seriously delusional.
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 04:55 PM by spanone
sounds like a member of the jim jones society
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vademocrat Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:53 PM
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13. For #1 - point out that domestic drilling is not "our" oil -
Multi-national corporations own the drilling rights and unless he's willing to nationalize the oil companies then any oil will become part of the world market and benefit Exxon, BP, Shell, etc.

I live around a lot of "drill here, drill now" folks and when I point this out it usually shuts them up.
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:58 PM
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14. Not that I agree with any of the points
but the third point is really creepy:
"Abortion will cease to be a taxpayer funded business scam"

There are people who really think like that?
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zeos3 Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:19 PM
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15. WTF is he talking about??
I'd like to help but I don't know where to begin. His comments are too vague. They do not support any of his outcomes.

#1 Any offshore oil will just go into the world market and make the oil companies richer.

#2 Obamacare became effective this past September. What the fuck does he think was going on with the "excellent private social agencies" before then and especially under GWB??

#3 What the fuck is he tailking about here??

#4 Again, what the fuck is he talking about??

#5 What the fuck is he talking about, again??

#6 I'd like him to mention this to the people of Wisconsin.

#7 ??about talking he is fuck the What

#8 Ugh... There's just too much wrong with this statement...

#9 Mr. Strange should see to it that they increase funding to the agency that provides his meds. He seems to be off of them.

#10 He keeps mentioning "manipulators" and such but has the whole thing backward. I don't know what to say about this other than the poor in this "wonderful American family" will have new and exciting opportunities to see how close to third world conditions they can survive in.

I'm sorry I couldn't help much but his ridiculous letter is like trying to read a Dali painting.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:21 PM
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16. LOL...I had a hard time responding without the F word myself.
Sometimes,it's best to just keep my mouth shut...where the f- do I even begin?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:21 PM
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17. #5 is filled with irony
When the GOP was in charge, the housing market was in the hands of people who abused sound business practices. The GOP was in charge when derivatives tanked our economy.

I have no idea what #8 is about. Who is advocating any of that?

#9 - Hah! For the first time?! Seriously?

#10 - Sounds like some Palin word salad. WTF is he blathering about?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:50 PM
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18. The problem in refuting it point by point is the letter would be gigantic
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 05:52 PM by karynnj
Therefore, maybe saying that each point made is far from true and then saying here are are few that can be easily refuted.

(using his numbers, here are some I can do concisely (something I am not good on)

1) Oil is an international commodity, whose price is set by supply and demand - the total oil that was being produced from deep water wells, the ONLY ones stopped, is less than 2.7% of the world's supply. Changing the supply by 2.7% has a relatively small effect on price. (For your info - I backed into the 2.7%, the US has about 11% of the world's production ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production ) - and 31% is OCS and 80% of that is deep water - http://www.spe.org/notes/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/faqs-deepwater-drilling-and-gom-spill.pdf ) Not to mention, it was halted just until new rules and regulations could be developed to prevent another massive spill.

Continuing the conservation measures started by Jimmy Carter would have had a bigger impact on lowering price, by lowering demand significantly - instead Reagan removed the solar panels and subsequent administrations did not count SUVs as cars, meaning more gas was consumed even as CAFE standards on cars increased. Development of a smart grid would also facilitate alternative energy soures that would free up some oil.

2) The "private social agencies, business leaders and state government elected officials" and the Republicans have yet to create a comprehensive plan to provide health care - other than the decades of Republican plans that all share the features of the current healthcare plan. Three Republicans with similar plans - Romney, Dole, and Nixon.

3) The Hyde amendment has forbidden the use of federal dollars for abortion for years - the scam is Republican legislators saying otherwise.

4) ??? all I can think of is that they are speaking of the Arizona law - but this is coded - and I don't have the code.

5) The reason the housing crisis was far beyond anything we ever saw was that financial institutions were allowed to create derivatives made from mortgages under no regulation, thanks to Senator Gramm, and the Bush SEC head changed the allowable leverage ratio from 1:12 to 1:44 in early 2004 providing tons of money to speculate with- creating a bubble that looked like a roaring economy in 2004 - just in time for re-election. The combinatyion caused the housing bubble.

6) I would leave alone

7) Tell them you agree and are glad they understand why DOMA should be repealed returning to the states the privilege they had for nearly 200 years in defining marriage in their state - MA will thank them as all MA married couples could then receive all the federal benefits of marriage.

8.) No one is talking of taking their talk radio away - except the talk radio people.

9) Given that there are multiple states, if there is redundancy between the states and the federal government, it would obviously be more efficient and cheaper to have one and only one system.

10) Yes, poor children hate free school lunches, heating subsidies, head start, health insurance and other benefits from social welfare programs - they long to be like the kids in Oliver Twist, working and begging. It would help their self esteem to rely on the kindness of people with more - who can't spare another cent in taxes - rather than getting soem of what they need from government programs.
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StarburstClock Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:53 PM
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19. No, I'm not a mental health professional
The author needs serious mental health attention to address his pathological lying, delusional thinking and multiple displaced anger issues.
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