North Korean concentration camps - how can we allow this to continue?

[Hugabear]

For anyone favoring the military action against Libya, why aren't we doing a damned thing about North Korea? Over 400,000 people are believed to have died in North Korea's concentration camps over the past 30 years. Take some to browse through the links below, and then tell me that our current policy makes any sense. Please, I don't want to hear the argument "is North Korea bombing anyone" - murder is murder, doesn't matter whether it comes via bomb, machine gun, or gas chamber (yes, North Korea is using those).

Revealed: the gas chamber horror of North Korea's gulag
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/feb/01/northkorea
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Over the past year harrowing first-hand testimonies from North Korean defectors have detailed execution and torture, and now chilling evidence has emerged that the walls of Camp 22 hide an even more evil secret: gas chambers where horrific chemical experiments are conducted on human beings.

Witnesses have described watching entire families being put in glass chambers and gassed. They are left to an agonising death while scientists take notes. The allegations offer the most shocking glimpse so far of Kim Jong-il's North Korean regime.
<snip>

Death,terror in North Korean gulag
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3071466/ns/us_news-only_on_msnbccom/
<snip>
At one camp, Camp 22 in Haengyong, some 50,000 prisoners toil each day in conditions that U.S. officials and former inmates say results in the death of 20 percent to 25 percent of the prison population every year.
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Holocaust Now: Looking Down Into Hell at Camp 22
http://freekorea.us/2007/02/18/holocaust-now-looking-down-into-hell-at-camp-22/

North Korea uncovered: Palaces, labour camps and mass graves
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-uncovered-palaces-labour-camps-and-mass-graves-1711573.html


This isn't something that happened back during the 60's or 70's. This isn't old news. This is going on RIGHT NOW.

[Ian David]

1. Can't do anything now. G.W. Bush let North Korea build nukes. n/t

[LaurenG]

6. This was my first thought. Nukes now. nt

[Lasher]

8. One of his biggest blunders.

And for the worst US president in living memory, that's saying a lot.

[abelenkpe]

2. They're bombing civilians and innocents in Cote d'Ivorie

And it too is happening RIGHT NOW.

Are we going there too?

[Hugabear]

3. If we want to be the world's policeman, then yes we should

North Korea, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone, Burma, Sri Lanka, and anywhere else where governments are slaughtering their own people.

[abelenkpe]

5. That would at least

make it seems like we truly are trying to protect and police rather than just protecting a bunch of oil rich nations for ourselves and our allies.

But I thought we were too poor and that's why we needed to force workers to work longer, for less money and benefits. Y'know like this overpaid banker suggests:

BANKER ON HOW TO SOLVE DEBT CRISIS: The Public Needs To Work Harder For Less Money And 50% Fewer Benefits
http://www.businessinsider.com/hans-jorg-rudloff-barcap-work-more-less-benefits-2011

(Pretty easy for him to suggest while making over a million a year. Nice man.)

[WinkyDink]

19. To be precise, he is speaking of the EU.

[dixiegrrrrl]

9. Perhaps we should stop our renditons and torture first? And close Gitmo?

And stop torturing Manning?
Oh, yeah, and stop ignoring and/or violating Constitutional rights of Americans.
Not to mention the continuing death by drone we are carrying out in at least 2 countries right now.
THEN we might be in a position to call a kettle black.

[Davis_X_Machina]

12. Only intervene in countries

...without oil, and that have been visited by Bono, because then our non-capitalist bona fides will be clear to all.

[JI7]

4. because worse is likely to happen if we attack NK

[Lex87]

7. North Korea

..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................http://www.localtastesofthecitytours.com[br />North Korean concentration camps - how can we allow this to continue?

Well, we can let it continue by ignoring it and pretending that nothing is happening. Sort of like we're pretending that the MOX reactor that blew up in Japan isn't going to have grave consequences for the fallout victims in the future. No worries, it's only the friendly atom after all (what's a little plutonium blowing around anyway).

Pretend and downplay, pretend and downplay, that's the name of the game.

[Brother Buzz]

10. How 'bout those North Korean proven oil reserves

I'm just saying.

[DFab420]

11. We should bomb North Korea too!!

FUck it. Lets solve all the worlds problems!!!


Hurray for American intervention!

[hayu_lol]

13. Keep the thought in mind...

that we, as a single nation, cannot solve the ills of the world. Over the past century, admittedly to our own benefit much of the time, we did carry the weight of the world. As yet, the other nations are quite willing to watch us spend ourselves into oblivion without doing their share. Time they picked up their share of the load.

The people of N.Korea made their choice years ago and have allowed this situation to continue unabated. Their country is it not?

Those who want to do something for all these unfortunate places should go there and solve the problems. Maybe this sounds cold to some, but we cannot do it all.

[MilesColtrane]

14. "why aren't we doing a damned thing about North Korea"

Any military action agaInst North Korea will be met with the near total destruction of Seoul and a good part of the ten million people who live in it. That's for starters. The extent of further civilian casualties depends on how long the DPRK military can hold on.

Also, China doesn't want the United States bombing North Korea. The Chinese may not take direct military action against the United States, but then again, they don't have to. They could severely cripple our economy by dumping their trillion dollars of US Treasury bonds.

[anarch]

15. I think we need a doomsday weapon

"everyone stop oppressing people or we will destroy the entire planet!"


seriously though, how come we don't have some kind of space-based tyrant assassinator or something? And I don't want to hear any talk about ethics or what have you, since clearly the popular opinion is that the end justifies the means.

[jeff47]

16. Two reasons:

1) Seoul is within range of North Korean artillery. Any attack on North Korea would result in the bombardment and destruction of South Korea's major city.

2) The victor in such a war would own North Korea. And while the crazy dictators make the situation worse in North Korea, their fundamental problem is there's very few resources in North Korea. South Korea could easily conquer North Korea without any assistance. But then they'd own North Korea and have to deal with the constant economic drain.

[Shagbark Hickory]

17. Yeah how can the EU and all those scandinavian countries let these atrocities continue?!

WE really should rally and demand they intervene with north korea.

[tuckessee]

18. Take care of Gitmo first.

Then do something to cut down on your world's largest prison population. Oh, and stop "accidentally" killing untold thousands with your bombs.

Maybe then your moral crusading won't seem absurdly hypocritical.