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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 08:27 PM
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Unmarried Pastor, Seeking a Job, Sees Bias
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 08:28 PM by Liberal_in_LA
Unmarried Pastor, Seeking a Job, Sees Bias
By ERIK ECKHOLM

Mark Almlie, an unemployed evangelical minister, suspects that being unmarried has hurt his chances to find a new job.
But Mr. Almlie, despite a sterling education and years of experience, has faced an obstacle that does not exist in most professions: He is a single pastor, in a field where those doing the hiring overwhelmingly prefer married people and, especially, married men with children.

Mr. Almlie, 37, has been shocked, he says, at what he calls unfair discrimination, based mainly on irrational fears: that a single pastor cannot counsel a mostly married flock, that he might sow turmoil by flirting with a church member, or that he might be gay. If the job search is hard for single men, it is doubly so for single women who train for the ministry, in part because many evangelical denominations explicitly require a man to lead the congregation.

Mr. Almlie, an ordained evangelical minister who lives in Petaluma, Calif., has also had to contend with the argument, which he disputes with scriptural citations of his own, that the Bible calls for married leaders. “Prejudice against single pastors abounds,” Mr. Almlie wrote in articles he posted on a popular Christian blog site in January and February, setting off a wide-ranging debate online on a topic that many said has been largely ignored.

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In more than 50 interviews, she said, “they often acted like I’m not quite whole because I’m single,” questioning whether she could counsel couples or parents. At the same time, some also asked whether, if she did get married and have a family, she would be able to continue with a demanding job as a pastor.



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/22/us/22pastor.html
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 08:32 PM
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1. a victim of his own religion....too bad. now he knows how 3/4 of the planet feels nt
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 08:33 PM
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2. A pastor feeling marginalized, discriminated against and mistrusted because of who he is?
Huh. You don't say.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 08:35 PM
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3. Awww...this atheist can only say...
:nopity:
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 08:46 PM
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4. He is missing the free part of the
labor force, the pastor's wife. Why should they pay for one when they are used to getting two? Actually he should try being a single female pastor if he wants to see bias.


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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:03 PM
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6. Great point, but not all of them do this.
Our last church, the pastor's wife made it very clear she wasn't there to do a damned thing.
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:07 PM
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11. I have to say ...
Good for her. More should tell them no or demand proper pay. Some of the hardest working people I have known were pastors' wives and they got very little credit for all they did. Shoot just putting up with committees without killing someone should qualify some for sainthood. :)


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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:36 PM
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12. It made little difference to me...
but yes, I agree that more should say no but obviously they don't.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:11 PM
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7. DING DING we have a winner!
+ 1,000
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 02:27 PM
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20. awesome point!
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SoutherDem Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 08:53 PM
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5. I am so sad,
"unfair discrimination, based mainly on irrational fears" I thought that was what the evangelical church was all about. Maybe he should try being a gay man in Alabama. :nopity:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 02:25 PM
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17. lol
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:37 PM
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8. I know a lot of clergy, in liberal churches, and they are all married.
This includes folks in their twenties. I have noticed this as I've been involved in churches (as an administrator and as a member) for the past 10 years.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:45 PM
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9. An evangelical experiencing discrimination...
Can't seem to work up too much sympathy for him. Maybe something good will come out of this, and he'll be unlike the majority of other evangelicals who don't demonize, "teh gay."

TlalocW
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:59 PM
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10. BS: "that does not exist in most professions"
I was a temp at a job in the late 90's and was passed over for a perm position because the other temp was married and had a "family to support."

Sorry, discrimination against single people is old news. Car insurance is higher for single people, even if they're over 40.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 02:27 PM
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19. I remember those days - when married folks were valued over single
and men were paid more because the 'had a family to support'
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:43 PM
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13. If only he was Catholic...
:eyes:
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:51 PM
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14. Hard to drum up sympathy
The one characteristic required of evangelicals is charisma. Goodness, holiness, wisdom, good judgement, empathy - none of these need be considered as long as a preacher is charismatic.

A thirty something evangelical must be short on charisma to be unemployed.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 11:00 PM
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15. Boo hoo hoo
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 11:05 PM
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16. Call me crazy, but I'd like to see more "unemployed evangelical ministers".
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 02:26 PM
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18. +100
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