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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:15 PM
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Baja Arizona movement has its own web site: Start Our State (Secede from Arizona)
http://tucsoncitizen.com/view-from-baja-arizona/2011/03/21/baja-arizona-movement-has-its-own-web-site-start-our-state/

Start Our State – Statement of Purpose

Breaking away from the State of Arizona is a serious business. As we enter Arizona’s 100th year, all Arizonans should be coming together to celebrate the accomplishments of our State and our coexistence and cooperation not only with other states but other nations, who send their children to Arizona universities in great numbers.

Instead, our state legislature and our governor, with great determination, are intent on pushing us back into the know-nothing nativism of the 19th century. Arizona has real problems that require intelligent and reasonable discussion and resolution. But our state government has ceded all authority to legislate to one man, Russell Pearce, who has repeatedly proven himself incapable of reason or tolerance.

As a result, while Arizona shares the struggles of all other states to achieve economic recovery, our legislature is enamored with xenophobic attacks on people of Mexican descent. Though done in the name of “securing our borders,” the solutions in no way address the very real problems our State faces, and the legislature’s desired result is to harass an entire population into abandoning their country, even if those people were born here and have known no other home. Furthermore, these laws have been, and will continue to be, struck down in the courts because they are so clearly contrary to the United States Constitution.

Because Maricopa County contains more than half of the population of Arizona, citizens of the other fourteen counties can never hope to take back Arizona government at the ballot box. Therefore, we must express our self-determination by breaking our political ties to the State of Arizona and endeavor to form a new State. We welcome all counties of Arizona to join us in our effort to secure the blessings of liberty.

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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:21 PM
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1. If only.........
Kick anyway for the fantasy!
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Pterodactyl Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:00 PM
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5. . <error> disregard
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 09:01 PM by Pterodactyl
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:28 PM
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2. Oh, good Lord
I never thought I'd see a group of Arizonans make a statement that's even more stupid than those the GOP has been making.

People who need transplants are DYING in Arizona. How about putting some effort into stopping that, instead of a futile endeavor like this?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:43 PM
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3. They are only dying because of REGRESSIVE policies
enacted by the brain-dead.

Baja would be a more enlightened society. Progressive. And people could get their transplants there.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:54 PM
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4. I understand where their coming from,
They are fed-up with native born Arizonans suffering because their state has become a dumping ground for the angry white assholes of the rustbelt and midwest. Which is WHY people are dying in need of transplants.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:53 PM
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7. Lately I'm agreeing with you more often than I don't; should I be worried?
I've lived in AZ for almost 40 years and what you just said is absolute, gawdawful truth--that's EXACTLY what the problem is.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 10:17 PM
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9. I just don't remember it always being that way,
Maybe it is because I am from Orange County so my gauge for center might be set a little to the right to begin with, but I just don't remember Arizona being like this before the mid-90's, there were always libertarian eccentrics but I just don't remember the modern cruel Newt Gingrich style conservatism before the mid-90's.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 11:26 PM
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11. It really wasn't. I remember when we had Democratic governors,
state legislators, and even a Democratic senator. In the last ten-15 years, this place has gone absolutely batshit racist-libertarian-radical right wing.

I've been watching it that long--and I'm still jaw-droppingly astonished to see what's happened. My parents wouldn't know the place if they could see it today. They wouldn't have even moved us here now, I guarantee it (my dad was a yellow-dog damn near socialist Democrat).
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:50 PM
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6. If this movement gathers steam, I'm moving back to Picacho.
Nice place anyway--I don't mind shuffling the daily special to Canadians; they tended to tip rather well and eventually Tucson will need more paralegals... ;)
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:58 PM
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8. At least this secessionist movement has a good cause
And it's not as if they're trying to break away from the US, they just want to create their own state. We've had states that have broken off from other states before.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 10:56 PM
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10. Our little town of Jerome has already seceded from Arizona.
Not technically, but that doesn't seem to matter here.

"We're all here, because we're not all there"
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