The madness of Western imperialism

[malaise]

As the depth of the tragedy in Japan sank in we were in a complete state of malaise. While most of humanity with access to televisions watched in shock and pain, the US, France and Britain thought that the best thing they could do for the already traumatized people on our planet was to bomb another country.

When is enough enough!! When do we stop this madness? When do we throw all these warmongering leaders and their backers in prisons for crimes against humanity?

[Hannah Bell]

1. from your lips to god's ears.

[cali]

2. You're conflating the earthquake in Japan with

Libya? While I oppose the Libyan action, I still prefer logic to conflation and hysterical emotional rhetoric.

[malaise]

5. That's your right

Apparently you miss my point - self interest cannot supersede the pain of human devastation.

I'm also conflating using drones to kill civilians during the worst floods in Pakistan.

[BzaDem]

3. Believe it or not, disagreeing with you about the wisdom of intervention is not a crime at all, let

alone a crime against humanity.

If any stance is in any way against humanity, it is the opposing stance (not the supporting one).

[inna]

12. !

lol, wow. how do you even come up with this stuff? what motivates?

[BzaDem]

14. What I said is kind of obvious

After all, do you really think that disagreeing with you (or the OP) about the wisdom of an intervention is a crime at all (let alone a crime against humanity)?

[NuclearDem]

4. Libya and Japan have nothing to do with each other

People were demanding intervention in Libya well before the earthquake.

And don't the innocent Libyan civilians count as traumatized people? Earthquakes we can't control, but a military firing on its own people, we can stop that.

[malaise]

6. I thought innocent civilians were merely collateral damage

I got that from the mouths of Western governments.

[NuclearDem]

7. Protecting Libyan civilians is our primary objective

Not destroying Gaddafi, not helping the rebels win.

Unless this was just a generic anti-war phrase uttered whenever a pro-NFZ DUer speaks up....in which case, nevermind.

[inna]

9. LOL, you really believe "we" 're doing this to "protect Libyan civilians"?

Really?

[malaise]

10. While cutting assistance to the American poor

laying off teachers and shutting down schools. Sure :sarcasm:

[NuclearDem]

16. If we hadn't gotten involved in Libya, the money would still go to the defense budget

Except instead of going to something with at least some honorable intentions and goals, it would probably go to something like the F-35.

[NuclearDem]

15. Guess I'm not completely jaded and still have SOME faith in the UN and NATO

So yes, I really do.

Is securing the oil an objective too? Probably.

[mdmc]

11. they both have something in common

they both need help..

Libya needs help to keep the oil flowing and blood lust to a minimum
Japan needs the red cross..

[inna]

8. Could not agree with you more!

[FiveGoodMen]

13. "When do we stop this madness?"

The problem in that sentence is the 'we'.

We, the 'Murkin population haven't decided that we need to stop it. Fox 'News' still holds sway.

If we -- those that care about their country and its freedom, its economy, its justice system, its future -- are greatly outnumbered by the 'we' that are either indifferent or hostile.