Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Ivory Coast wonders: Where's our UN intervention?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:40 PM
Original message
Ivory Coast wonders: Where's our UN intervention?
Source: The Christian Science Monitor

President-elect Alassane Ouattara asked the United Nations this week to provide 'legitimate force' to protect civilians, but Ivory Coast is unlikely to receive the kind of international military intervention currently underway in Libya.

The UN mission there is increasingly powerless to stem the violence. Gbagbo supporters have blocked the movement of UN peacekeepers, and burned their cars. UN personel now circumnavigate the city in unmarked vehicles.

Gbagbo himself has demanded the departure of the UN, and once threatened to shoot down any UN aircraft hovering above the country – a reverse no-fly zone, if you will.

Meanwhile, the killing continues.



Read more: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/Africa-Monitor/2011/0323/Ivory-Coast-wonders-Where-s-our-UN-intervention
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:41 PM
Response to Original message
1. UN asks Cote d'Ivoire, "where's your oil"? nt
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 08:42 PM by Critters2
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
2. No oil, no cruise missiles. It all evens out. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
3. All they have to do is ask, right?
I mean, that's what I've gathered.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. That's what I've heard, too. "Because the people asked for it". nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:58 PM
Response to Original message
5. Wheres's your oil?
Those bombing raids don't pay themselves, don't they know?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:59 PM
Response to Original message
6. No blood for chocolate!
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 08:59 PM by Canuckistanian
Maybe if the price of cocoa liquor goes above #100/bbl, but not now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 10:44 PM
Response to Original message
7. Sorry, we only bomb countries that read "full" on our dipstick.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #7
16. +1
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 11:02 PM
Response to Original message
8. knr nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 11:19 PM
Response to Original message
9. Horrible what's going on there. The people elected a new
president and the old regime will not leave. The people protested and the ousted regime attacked them and continues to do so. At least 200 people have died so far.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 12:01 AM
Response to Original message
10. Show us OIL or our government will show you how much it really cares about your "human rights"
this is so wrong. why can't we EVER get a REAL progressive in the white house? is it really that corrupt - do you have to sell out to wall street and the oil companies to get the $$$$ to get elected in this country? sadly......... YES! :(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinee Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 01:52 AM
Response to Original message
11. what's in it for us? Nothing? Go fuck yourselves. Sincerely, the civilized world.
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 01:54 AM by Vinee
PS: are you interested in any loans with which you might use to purchase some of our tanks, jets, or bombs?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nitram Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:15 AM
Response to Original message
12. Where's...
...the African Union when we need them?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:25 AM
Response to Original message
13. +1000
Hundreds of people have been killed, and the world stopped paying attention months ago...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:43 AM
Response to Original message
14. Good question
One I imagine will not have a satisfying answer.

I'm curious how the pro-war crowd defends this selective humanitarianism.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. I'm in the antiwar column. I don't have an answer to "What should we be doing?"
Any thoughts?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #15
17. To which
Libya or the Ivory Coast?

To both I'd say we offer our support and aid to those affected whenever possible, but that the US has no more interest in toppling regimes and replacing them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #15
21. Send BP Oil to drill for the Queen?
We're tapped out
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. "selective humanitarianism"
+1

that's a good one!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 12:02 PM
Response to Original message
18. The problem with UN rules is that
there is basically one member nation that can enforce them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 12:02 PM
Response to Original message
19. From the International Coalition for the Responsibility to Protect regarding the Ivory Coast
http://www.responsibilitytoprotect.org/index.php/crises/crisis-in-ivory-coast

The UN, European Union (EU), and numerous countries including the United States, Germany, France, and the United Kingdom, have formally recognized Alassane Ouattara as the President.

In its fourteenth special session held on December 23, 2010, the Human Rights Council passed a Resolution condemning the human rights violations. The UN Security Council passed Resolution 1962 on December 20, 2010 which extended the mandate of UNOCI through June 30, 2011 and provided additional troop and personnel support to the mission. Following a letter from the Secretary-General to the President of the Security Council on the situation in Côte d’Ivoire, the UN Security Council unanimously voted on January 19, 2011 to send an additional 2,000 UNOCI forces in the country. UNOCI has deployed forces to the Hotel du Golf to protect Ouattara and his Government. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon issued condemned all violations of human rights that have occurred since the elections.

The Special Adviser of the Secretary-General on the Prevention of Genocide, Francis Deng, and Special Adviser to the Secretary-General who focuses on the Responsibility to Protect, Edward Luck, issued two joint statements on the political crisis. The first, published on 29 December 2010, focused on reports of human rights violations by Gbagbo supporters and the use of inflammatory speech to incite hatred and violence by loyalist forces. The Advisers reminded all parties that the responsibility to protect includes the prevention of mass atrocity crimes, “importantly including their incitement.” Special Advisers Deng and Luck, using more forceful and stern language in their statement issued on January 29, 2011, specifically warned “about the possibility of genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes and ethnic cleansing in Côte d’Ivoire.” The Advisers stated “that urgent steps should be taken, in line with the “responsibility to protect”, to avert the risk of genocide and ensure the protection of all those at risk for mass atrocities.” Furthermore, the statement reminded “all parties of their responsibility to protect all populations in Côte d’Ivoire, irrespective of their ethnicity, nationality, or religion.”

International Crisis Group (ICG) issued an open letter to the Security Council on the situation in Côte d’Ivoire that urged Members to take the necessary actions to prevent further escalation of violence. ICG made the following recommendations:
• Security Council should enhance the mission’s capacity;
• Remind Mr. Gbagbo, and other government, military and security leaders of their criminal liability for violating human rights;
Because a military solution is unlikely, the Security Council should urgently act to prevent further escalation of violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_to_protect

Threshold for military interventions

According to the International Commission for Intervention and State Sovereignty (ICISS) Report in 2001 (which was not adopted by national governments), any form of a military intervention initiated under the premise of responsibility to protect must fulfill the following six criteria in order to be justified as an extraordinary measure of intervention:

Just Cause
Right Intention
Final Resort
Legitimate Authority
Proportional Means
Reasonable Prospect


The ICRtoP article didn't say which of these 6 criteria for military intervention are not met in the Ivory Coast crisis, just that "a military solution is unlikely".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 11:08 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC