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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:06 PM
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Senators call for takedown of iPhone apps that locate DUI checkpoints
"Four U.S. senators are calling for Apple to remove iPhone and iPad App Store apps that help users to avoid DUI checkpoints, even as rival smartphone maker Research in Motion has agreed to remove offending apps from its BlackBerry App World store."

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/03/23/senators_call_for_takedown_of_iphone_apps_that_locate_dui_checkpoints.html

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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:10 PM
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1. One of the reasons that centralized app control is immoral
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:17 PM
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2. It definitely brings in issues of censorship. Of course most people do not want people driving
under the influence, but what if this revolved around something else?

I can understand individual groups protesting against this, but somehow when members of Congress get involved it is not so straight forward


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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:26 PM
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6. It is bigger than just this app
It is your hardware, why should Apple have a say in what you run on it as long as it does not interfere with the FCC controlled phone portion. This is even more true with the Ipad

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:14 PM
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13. then don't buy one
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 05:15 PM by emulatorloo
(Just downloaded one of these apps, main feature seems to be identifying speed traps.. also Accidents, Ice on Roads, Construction, Road hazzards, etc)
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:23 PM
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17. I haven't. Alternatives to Ipad are coming on strong and were it not the questionable horizontal
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 06:23 PM by ProgressiveProfessor
monopoly Apple has erected they would be in serious hurt. Even as it is they are losing developers to alternative platforms. I fully expect in a few years Apple will return to its traditional role as a niche player.

Ethics matters and Apple's in this area are quite bad
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:44 PM
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20. You are playing fast and loose with the term "Monopoly"
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 07:57 PM by emulatorloo
In one sentence you claim the copycat devices will destroy Apple, In the the other sentence you claim apple has a Monopoly, How can their be a "monopoly" if there are alternative platforms? Does not compute.

As I say, if it offends your highly developed ethical sense that Apple has a store where they sell apps for apple products, then don't buy an Apple product.

Just use the product you want and climb down from your soapbox. It will give you more time for enjoying your XOOM and free the rest of us from having be terrorized by your sermons.

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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:41 PM
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21. The monopoly is on applications that run on Iphone and Ipad
If I write a cool app for Ipad, how would I get it out to others without Apple. They are the gatekeeper on hardware they no longer own. Seems in a very repuke thing to do.

How would you feel if GM said you could only drive their cars on their roads or use only their fuel?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:38 AM
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22. The answer is simple.
Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 11:43 AM by emulatorloo
If you don't want an iPhone and iPad, don't buy one. It is simple as that. Just stop torturing everybody else with your off-topic pseudo-political I-hate-apple-rants.


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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:19 PM
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3. I shouldn't have to talk to the pigs unless they think they see me
violating some law. That is reason enough to use that app. I don't even drink.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:23 PM
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4. Give it a rest (nt)
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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 04:24 PM
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10. If it violates my rights. It is a pig. That is all. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:26 PM
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5. Is this a big enough problem to matter?
How many people have phones AND know about the app AND are driving drunk?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:08 PM
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12. A lot of them track Speed Traps too, apparently
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:30 PM
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7. I call for taking down the DUI checkpoints and then people
won't have any use for the app. Fuck those guys, they probably will use it themselves when it is made illegal to everyone else...oh right, they don't drive or have to interact with us little people. :eyes:
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:55 PM
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9. Agreed
I remember being taught in Government class you were innocent until proven guilty. Now you are pulled over and have to prove your innocence. The probable cause....you are driving through an area of town that has bars.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 04:27 PM
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11. We live in a country that is now 'guilty until proven innocent'
last time I checked, this was NOT the UK! What the fuck is going on with America? Are we becoming our own worst enemy?
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:49 PM
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8. Random search is a bunch of bullshit. The Constitution doesn't stutter yet authoritarian and bought
judges along with power grabbing politicians have made a complete mockery of our rights to be secure in our persons and effects starting with the bogus Terry stop overreach and growing like a weed since.

Shut down an app (on your personal fucking property, no less) to make it easier on them to run illegal schemes.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:15 PM
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14. Now you would think that Senators, of all people, would recognize the value of this app
But maybe that's just me, and the way I think.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:24 PM
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15. LOL, well you don't see Boehner bitching about it, do you?
or any Republicans for that matter!

It is Harry Reid, Charles Schumer, Frank Lautenberg and Tom Udall
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:27 PM
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16. They're probably mad that it's an iPhone app and they
would have to drive drunk while searching their iPhone for roadblocks... Maybe if it was a GPS thing... :rofl:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:24 PM
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18. Apple apps are subject to unilateral takedown...a good reason not to go with Apple
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:36 PM
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19. Excuse me Senators, how is this helping to create jobs?
authoritarian nanny staters...what you guys trying to be republicans?
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