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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:30 PM
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Obama is totally playing the Republicans, and doing a fine job at it.
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 05:36 PM by Atman
Bush got caught lying about the GOP's favorite war. Along the way, he made countless stupid, counter-productive comments that entrenched him, backed him into a corner, and embarrassed the nation ("Bring 'em on!" "Nope, no WMD under here!"). Obama, OTOH, is carefully measuring his words, not playing into their hands. Letting the so-called GOP "leaders" make laughing stocks of themselves with Gingrichy flip-flops and brazen hypocrisy. I'm not thrilled with everything Obama is doing, but one thing he is doing well lately is exposing the child-like thinking and tactics of the GOP.

My support for President Obama has had some ebbs and flows since the happy "Change" days, but right now he seems to be playing them like a fiddle.

I like that. I work in political advertising. These Republican clowns are writing my material for me!

(edited for minor typo)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:31 PM
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1. they are slime. they are against anything he does.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:36 PM
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2. Some might call that political "chess"
He has been playing them since day one.

2012 and especially 2014 are going to be nightmare years for the GOP.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:40 PM
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5. I agree...
Nightmare years for the GOP...and me. I see many, many late nights at the office ahead. Even years are always busy, but 2012 is gonna be hell.
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:52 PM
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15. Thank you,
for your service.

:patriot:

Make us proud!!!
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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:40 PM
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6. I sure hope that you are right! (nt)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:48 PM
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11. Yep...
You can't rush chess either... but the proof is in the pudding and I hear the bowls and spoons rattling as I type;)

I'm thinking in terms of things that were begun right away and carefully whittled away at over the past couple of years... and I believe a lot of things will come to fruition in rapid fire succession in 2012 - 2014. Night TERROR, methinks!
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:37 PM
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3. .......
:popcorn:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:39 PM
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4. IS that real butter?
I hate the fake shit...move over, stop hogging the couch.

:popcorn:

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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:50 PM
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13. Put some extra salt on that. At this point, I don't care about my health. nt
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:42 PM
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7. They are such complete fools
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al_liberal Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:42 PM
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8. Classic rope-a-dope strategy.
I think he's finally learned that anything he's for they are automatically against. Now he's just baiting them.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:09 PM
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16. He could almost do the "duck season, rabbit season" sketch with them at this point.
They are not smart.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:16 PM
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17. LOL........should we shoot him now or wait till we get home, shoot him now shoot him now!
You are so right and that is so funny.
Lou
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:45 PM
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28. I couldn't resist...
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:44 PM
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9. !
:rofl:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:46 PM
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10. If 2010 election results are anything to go on
the 10 dimensional chess isn't working.

I wish I could put on some rose colored glasses though and pretend everything is going just swell.

Hopefully you are right and GOP gets their asses kicked next time.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:50 PM
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14. The 2010 election results are meaningless in this regard...
They were predictable for other reasons, and they most likely served to awaken the sleeping beast that elected Obama.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:41 PM
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20. The 2010 elections forced the Republicons to overplay their hands in many states now headed by Thug
Govs. It woke up a nation sleeping........they got some power in 2010, and they are abusing the citizenry with it, even some of the same citizens who voted for them and gave them this power (that has gone to their heads), are now caught up in the attack against us and now, against them. I don't think this was a chess move, but I do think the Pubes are going to go down in flames in the next election cycle big time. All the vote rigging, Koch money, Fox Gop noise, chamber of Republicon commerce's in the world won't save them from what's coming, especially since they continue on their destructive path. I wish them everything that they deserve and have coming to them. Also, one corporation needs to be investigated throughly.........though they are all basically crooks and liars, the KOCH companies are Evil thieves who buy silence, deregulation and politicians who look the other way and don't investigate these Evil pigs because they are bought and paid for. There has to be someone with the money and power like Gates or Soros, who could make this happen in the face of our Koch owned government. The Koch family was involved in Nazi Germany, they come from a hateful Bircher background and one of their heros is Joseph Stalin. Where do you think they want to take this country? Even two of their brothers call the family a "crime organization".
Lou

Here's a little history on the traitor Koch Klan Kompany and their family which is trying to destroy America.

And where did Fred Koch and his boys get their ideas?

Information connecting Ilse Koch (nee Kohler) is hard to find. It’s mainly fragments, pieces of information that connect the American and German Kochs and this connection gives a clear image of the sentiment behind the Tea Party and conservative American politics since the 1950s. Where is the connection between the German Koch’s and Fred Koch? Besides evidence the American Koch was related to Ilse’s family, Erich Koch, a high level Nazi official in charge of Prussia, invites Fred Koch to sell his oil in Nazi Germany when he is banned from doing business in the US. After the fall of Nazi Germany, Erich Koch and Fred expand the oil empire to the Soviet Union. Erich Koch had been in charge of Prussia for Hitler so his ties to the Soviet Union ran deep. A few years later the Soviets took Fred Koch’s oil and prosecuted Erich for war crimes. Fred Koch returned to the US, became a FLAMING anti-communist, and was allowed to do business in the States again. Fred Koch admired Mussolini’s tactics against Communism, and it is when he embraces this sort of thinking that he becomes a staunch opponent of civil rights.

Ilse and her husband Karl were tried by the SS before the war ended, accused of corruption. Karl Otto Koch was tried and sentenced to death in Nazi Germany, for incitement to murder and embezzlement. He was executed by firing quad on April 5th, 1945. After the war, Ilse was arrested in the German American Zone, tried in front of a tribunal and sentenced. Ilse committed suicide by hanging herself, in prison, in 1967. She was the only woman to be found guilty of war crimes in World War II.

I am including some more specific information about certain members of the Koch-Kohler family, for clarification and to give further evidence of the generations of hate within the Koch family.

Erich Koch

Erich Koch was a high ranking Nazi official in the Ukraine, with control of the Gestapo and the police. His domain was extended from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea; he captured ethnic German, Polish, Belarus and Ukrainians, declaring that “Ukraine children need no schools. What they’ll have to learn will be taught them by their German masters” and “If I meet a Ukrainian worthy of being seated at my table, I must have him shot..”.

Koch worked together with the General Plenipotentiary for Labor Deployment, providing the Reich with forced labor. Erich Koch faced charges of war crimes for the extermination of 400,000 Poles, but was never indicted for his crimes in Ukraine. He was sentenced to death on March 9, 1959 by the district court in Warsaw for having planned, prepared and organized the mass murder of civilians. Many people, including Russian historians, believe he possessed information about art looted by the Nazis during the war.
Years after the war, Koch stood trial in Poland and was convicted in 1959 of war crimes and sentenced to death. The sentence was commuted to life imprisonment a year later.

Brother of Erich Koch, Karl Otto Koch

(August 2, 1897 – April 5, 1945) A colonel in the German SS, Karl was the first commandant of the Nazi concentration camps at Buchenwald. On August 1, 1937 he was given command of the new concentration camp at Buchenwald. Investigations into his improper conduct at Buchenwald included corruption, fraud, embezzlement, drunkenness, sexual offenses and a murder. Koch’s orders to kill prisoners at the camp were revealed, as well as embezzlement of property stolen from prisoners, and he was executed by firing squad. (I have read numerous accounts that state the Nazis were not all the upset about anything else except the embezzling.)

Ilse Koch

Koch married Ilse Köhler with whom he had a son and two daughters. Köhler later became known as “The Witch of Buchenwald.” She was accused of taking souvenirs from the skin of murdered inmates with distinctive tattoos. These rumors were never verified, but the mythos continues to this day, most famously “Hitler’s Lampshades”. She built an indoor sports arena, which cost over 250,000 marks, most of which were taken from the inmates. Ilse was arrested by the Gestapo for embezzlement of SS funds and the murder of certain inmates in an attempt to cover up these crimes.

She was tried for war crimes by an American military tribunal in 1947. Prosecuting her was future United States Court of Claims Judge Robert L. Kunzig. She was charged with ”participating in a criminal plan for aiding, abetting and participating in the murders at Buchenwald.” The court found that Ilse Koch was a willing participant in the horrors that occurred at Buchenwald. The tribunal found Koch guilty and sentenced her to life imprisonment. After she had served two years, General Lucius D. Clay, the interim military governor of the American Zone in Germany, pardoned her. Owing to international condemnation, however, Koch was re-arrested in 1949 and tried before a West German court for instigation to murder in 135 cases. She was sentenced to life imprisonment on January 15, 1951. She committed suicide by hanging herself in prison on September 1, 1967

Fred Chase Koch

(September 23, 1900 – November 17, 1967) chemical engineer and founded the TEXACO oil refinery firm that later became Koch Industries (Chevron). Koch and its customers were sued for patent infringement, process for turning crude oil into gasoline. Litigation effectively put Winkler-Koch out of business in the U.S. for several years. In other words, Koch was banned. Koch turned his focus to foreign markets, including the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, reportedly with the help of Erich Koch. During his time in the Soviet Union, Fred Koch came to despise communism and Josef Stalin’s regime “a land of hunger, misery and terror”.

Fred C. Koch married Mary Robinson in Kansas City, Missouri in 1932. They had four sons, Frederick (b. 1933), Charles (b. 1935), David (b. 1940) and William (b. 1940). His sons are Charles de Ganahl Koch and David H. Koch.

The New York Times on Charles and David:

“Koch Industries began with oil in the 1930s and now also spews an array of industrial products, from Dixie cups to Lycra, not unlike DuPont’s portfolio of paint and plastics. Sometimes the biological DNA persists as well. The Koch brothers’ father, Fred, was among the select group chosen to serve on the Birch Society’s top governing body. In a recorded 1963 speech that survives in a University of Michigan archive, he can be heard warning of “a takeover” of America in which Communists would “infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the president is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us”. (That speech could be delivered as is at any Tea Party rally today, and has been, in one form or another.) article cont:

Last week the Kochs were shoved unwillingly into the spotlight by the most comprehensive journalistic portrait of them yet, written by Jane Mayer of The New Yorker. Her article caused a stir among those in Manhattan’s liberal elite who didn’t know that David Koch, widely celebrated for his cultural philanthropy, is not merely another rich conservative Republican but the founder of the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, which, as Mayer writes with some understatement, “has worked closely with the Tea Party since the movement’s inception”. To New Yorkers who associate the David H. Koch Theater at Lincoln Center with the New York City Ballet, it’s startling to learn that the Texas branch of that foundation’s political arm, known simply as Americans for Prosperity, gave its Blogger of the Year Award to an activist who had called President Obama “cokehead in chief.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/03/11/the-koch-family...
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:53 PM
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22. +1...this should be a stand-alone post.
The Obama-haters want him impeached because they believe, with absolutely no substantive evidence, that he's a Kenyan Manchurian candidate. But when a CONFIRMED, UNDENIABLE NAZI FAMILY provides financing for their own political ambitions, they're silent. They don't care.

Republicans are fucking insane. Literally. It's an illness.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:34 PM
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26. I know, the truth is so not in these days, but lies, people seem to eat them up.
Thank you so much for reading and commenting, at least I know I'm not alone.
Lou
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:49 PM
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12. I hope and pray your right.. He sure could use some strong support in the congress.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:24 PM
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18. The freepers, Cave dwellers and Koch whores are busy tonight!
I've seen the recs swing five points in just a few posts. Only proves to underscore my point: they're skeered.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:27 PM
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19. No historical evidence that this tactic works. Republicans eat, shit, and breathe hypocrisy
and have a long history of criminality but only face very short term ramifications and then come back stronger and more brazen than before they got taken down a peg or two.

Why do you think this "exposing" is any different than Watergate, Iran Contra, and a decade of mismanagement starting when they took Congress and went full on batshit with Bush?

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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:45 PM
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21. Precisely.
Since day one Obama has made republicans look like fools, but the people who recognize this don't vote republican.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:35 AM
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31. and they revel in it. They brag about their inadequacies
they will control both houses in '12 and even stronger in '14..It's the map and the math..

Republicans delight in being contrary, even if it hurts them.. Their constituency thinks that "longterm" means next week. The only "past" experience they cling to is the "heritage" derived from the "war of northern aggression", and the "good old days" when women were cooks, cleaners, and Moms..any other history they need to know about can be taught to them on the history channel..:(

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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:02 PM
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23. Since they have chosen to oppose him full time
all he needs to do is propose the reasonable thing and they are boxed out.
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:28 PM
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24. He may be playing them like a fiddle.
But mean time he is loosing his base, doing nothing as unions are being dismantled, not creating jobs at anything like the rate they need to be with 9M unemployed but employable people who lost their jobs as a direct result of the recession.
At the current rate of job growth most of those 9M's skills will be so out of date in a decade or two when jobs become available, maybe, they will be truly unemployable, so business can import more foreign labor to fill the new jobs.

And anyway, screw the boys games they are playing and let's get some serious work done. Tweaking Republican's noses isn't very impressive. If in fact if that is what the WH is spending its time planning, maybe we should put some grown ups in charge next time.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:46 PM
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27. They've trained you well.
Couldn't you at least try? What an absolute crock of sheet.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 01:58 PM
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36. +1
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:30 PM
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25. He's got them just where they want him
Exactly WHO is getting everything they want here?
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:21 AM
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29. Oh, he's fiddling allright.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:27 AM
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30. Yeah, his performance is super impressive. Finally, the nation
knows who is in charge.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 10:40 AM
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32. Wow - political advertising. How lucky you are
I would love to do that. In fact, I often wondered why someone doesn't employ DUers to come up with creative ads. Especially
about hypocrisy....but I suppose most politicians shy away since everyone probably contradicts themselves in some way shape or form.

Until the budget went south, I had a vision of a perfect campaign ad - for 2008. A simple graph to show the budget deficit and
merely a heartbeat sound for each point, ticking down during Clinton and then up, up, and up during Bush. The end..."Vote Democratic"
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:30 AM
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33. Ridiculous. "Obama is totally playing the Republicans". In what alternate reality?
See post #25.

Unrecommended for absurdity.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:41 AM
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34. I agree. His impersonation of a republican is dead on. I'm convinced.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 01:20 PM
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35. Somebody is getting "played".
Unfortunately, it is the American Working Class.



Who will STAND and represent THIS American Majority?
Rhetoric, broken promises, and excuses mean NOTHING now.
"By their WORKS you will know them,"
and by their WORKS they will be held accountable.



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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 04:01 PM
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37. Well, I agree with you in one sense....Someone is getting "played."
Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 04:02 PM by bvar22
From where I sit, the suckers being played would be the American Working Class.


Chess
A game where the Pawns are sacrificed to protect the Royalty.
It only sucks if you are a Pawn.



Who will STAND UP and represent THIS American Majority?
Rhetoric, Empty Promises, and Excuses are meaningless now.

"By their WORKS you will know them,"
And by their WORKS they will be held accountable.


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