CLICK HERE...If you are up to the fight against Koch Brothers and their Fascism.

[blm]

Please see the MSNBC/Dylan Ratigan video posted by Bozita.

This is SERIOUS information here on the Koch Brothers and the video needs to go viral. Post it everywhere you can.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=734017&mesg_id=734017


Here's another thread on this same story. Seems too many here missed these threads.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x733545

And a thank you email to Ratigan may get MORE coverage of this ENORMOUS story.

[golddigger]

1. The wife plastered it all over FaceBook! She has a lot of friends.

[blm]

2. salute to the wife....

seriously

[Bozita]

3. It's MUST SEE stuff! ... They even use the word "oligarch" freely.

[Electric Monk]

4. k&r

nt

[revolutionnow45]

5. This really freaked me out when I read it..

And where did Fred Koch get these ideas?

Information connecting Ilse Koch (nee Kohler) is hard to find. It’s mainly fragments, pieces of information that connect the American and German Kochs and this connection gives a clear image of the sentiment behind the Tea Party and conservative American politics since the 1950s. Where is the connection between the German Koch’s and Fred Koch? Besides evidence the American Koch was related to Ilse’s family, Erich Koch, a high level Nazi official in charge of Prussia, invites Fred Koch to sell his oil in Nazi Germany when he is banned from doing business in the US. After the fall of Nazi Germany, Erich Koch and Fred expand the oil empire to the Soviet Union. Erich Koch had been in charge of Prussia for Hitler so his ties to the Soviet Union ran deep. A few years later the Soviets took Fred Koch’s oil and prosecuted Erich for war crimes. Fred Koch returned to the US, became a FLAMING anti-communist, and was allowed to do business in the States again. Fred Koch admired Mussolini’s tactics against Communism, and it is when he embraces this sort of thinking that he becomes a staunch opponent of civil rights.

Ilse and her husband Karl were tried by the SS before the war ended, accused of corruption. Karl Otto Koch was tried and sentenced to death in Nazi Germany, for incitement to murder and embezzlement. He was executed by firing quad on April 5th, 1945. After the war, Ilse was arrested in the German American Zone, tried in front of a tribunal and sentenced. Ilse committed suicide by hanging herself, in prison, in 1967. She was the only woman to be found guilty of war crimes in World War II.

I am including some more specific information about certain members of the Koch-Kohler family, for clarification and to give further evidence of the generations of hate within the Koch family.

Erich Koch

Erich Koch was a high ranking Nazi official in the Ukraine, with control of the Gestapo and the police. His domain was extended from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea; he captured ethnic German, Polish, Belarus and Ukrainians, declaring that “Ukraine children need no schools. What they’ll have to learn will be taught them by their German masters” and “If I meet a Ukrainian worthy of being seated at my table, I must have him shot..”.

Koch worked together with the General Plenipotentiary for Labor Deployment, providing the Reich with forced labor. Erich Koch faced charges of war crimes for the extermination of 400,000 Poles, but was never indicted for his crimes in Ukraine. He was sentenced to death on March 9, 1959 by the district court in Warsaw for having planned, prepared and organized the mass murder of civilians. Many people, including Russian historians, believe he possessed information about art looted by the Nazis during the war.
Years after the war, Koch stood trial in Poland and was convicted in 1959 of war crimes and sentenced to death. The sentence was commuted to life imprisonment a year later.

Brother of Erich Koch, Karl Otto Koch

(August 2, 1897 – April 5, 1945) A colonel in the German SS, Karl was the first commandant of the Nazi concentration camps at Buchenwald. On August 1, 1937 he was given command of the new concentration camp at Buchenwald. Investigations into his improper conduct at Buchenwald included corruption, fraud, embezzlement, drunkenness, sexual offenses and a murder. Koch’s orders to kill prisoners at the camp were revealed, as well as embezzlement of property stolen from prisoners, and he was executed by firing squad. (I have read numerous accounts that state the Nazis were not all the upset about anything else except the embezzling.)

Ilse Koch

Koch married Ilse Köhler with whom he had a son and two daughters. Köhler later became known as “The Witch of Buchenwald.” She was accused of taking souvenirs from the skin of murdered inmates with distinctive tattoos. These rumors were never verified, but the mythos continues to this day, most famously “Hitler’s Lampshades”. She built an indoor sports arena, which cost over 250,000 marks, most of which were taken from the inmates. Ilse was arrested by the Gestapo for embezzlement of SS funds and the murder of certain inmates in an attempt to cover up these crimes.

She was tried for war crimes by an American military tribunal in 1947. Prosecuting her was future United States Court of Claims Judge Robert L. Kunzig. She was charged with ”participating in a criminal plan for aiding, abetting and participating in the murders at Buchenwald.” The court found that Ilse Koch was a willing participant in the horrors that occurred at Buchenwald. The tribunal found Koch guilty and sentenced her to life imprisonment. After she had served two years, General Lucius D. Clay, the interim military governor of the American Zone in Germany, pardoned her. Owing to international condemnation, however, Koch was re-arrested in 1949 and tried before a West German court for instigation to murder in 135 cases. She was sentenced to life imprisonment on January 15, 1951. She committed suicide by hanging herself in prison on September 1, 1967

Fred Chase Koch

(September 23, 1900 – November 17, 1967) chemical engineer and founded the TEXACO oil refinery firm that later became Koch Industries (Chevron). Koch and its customers were sued for patent infringement, process for turning crude oil into gasoline. Litigation effectively put Winkler-Koch out of business in the U.S. for several years. In other words, Koch was banned. Koch turned his focus to foreign markets, including the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, reportedly with the help of Erich Koch. During his time in the Soviet Union, Fred Koch came to despise communism and Josef Stalin’s regime “a land of hunger, misery and terror”.

Fred C. Koch married Mary Robinson in Kansas City, Missouri in 1932. They had four sons, Frederick (b. 1933), Charles (b. 1935), David (b. 1940) and William (b. 1940). His sons are Charles de Ganahl Koch and David H. Koch.

The New York Times on Charles and David:

“Koch Industries began with oil in the 1930s and now also spews an array of industrial products, from Dixie cups to Lycra, not unlike DuPont’s portfolio of paint and plastics. Sometimes the biological DNA persists as well. The Koch brothers’ father, Fred, was among the select group chosen to serve on the Birch Society’s top governing body. In a recorded 1963 speech that survives in a University of Michigan archive, he can be heard warning of “a takeover” of America in which Communists would “infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the president is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us”. (That speech could be delivered as is at any Tea Party rally today, and has been, in one form or another.) article cont:

Last week the Kochs were shoved unwillingly into the spotlight by the most comprehensive journalistic portrait of them yet, written by Jane Mayer of The New Yorker. Her article caused a stir among those in Manhattan’s liberal elite who didn’t know that David Koch, widely celebrated for his cultural philanthropy, is not merely another rich conservative Republican but the founder of the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, which, as Mayer writes with some understatement, “has worked closely with the Tea Party since the movement’s inception”. To New Yorkers who associate the David H. Koch Theater at Lincoln Center with the New York City Ballet, it’s startling to learn that the Texas branch of that foundation’s political arm, known simply as Americans for Prosperity, gave its Blogger of the Year Award to an activist who had called President Obama “cokehead in chief.”

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/03/11/the-koch-family-a-legacy-of-hate-part-one

[Angry Dragon]

17. The teabaggers are backed by Nazi money............

[eowyn_of_rohan]

33. K&R x1000

omg.... What a find. I have some studying to do.

[hifiguy]

40. So the Kochs come by their Nazism naturally. . .

Why does this not seem surprising in the least?

[AntiFascist]

65. It's interesting how tea baggers often try to...

associate Nazis with far left politics via National Socialism, when in fact Nazi's were (are) raging anti-communists. Even their hatred of labor unions was born out of their roots.

[Initech]

6. I'm in.

[drm604]

7. K&R

Facebooked it.

[emulatorloo]

8. Kick and Rec n/t

[fascisthunter]

9. Awesome.... KICK!

[Octafish]

10. Click This, Koch Cronies.

blm has been on to your gangster arses a long time.

[Bozita]

12. Good info in that link! ... Thank you.

[rhett o rick]

11. r&k

[KoKo]

13. BLM....

Thank Goodness...You are CLUED INTO RATIGAN!

He's a treasure. Did you check out his archives of older shows...Blew me away!

You and I are old comrades in many ways. Thanks for this post. Glad to see you getting into Ratigan!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. them and all the big muck mucks ...I intend to protest them where they live ,,,,

google Onteora Park, Twilight Park and Elka Park, NY

[WillyT]

15. HUGE K & R !!!

:kick:

[PA Democrat]

16. More info on their front groups

Edit to add link with more info on these groups:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x514555

[blm]

26. They fund socially divisive RW causes only to get groundtroops. Their religion is THEIR POWER

within the structure of the Global Fascist Agenda ----- NWO Powerbrokers.

[pacalo]

18. K&R!

[defendandprotect]

19. Rightwing Koch Bros. Funded the DLC -- let's not forget that -- !!!

http://www.democrats.com/node/7789

[defendandprotect]

20. Right wing can only rise on political violence -- my fear has been the T-baggers...

will be used to make political debate/discussion even more aggressive than it is now --

and to create a more violent political atmosphere.

We also have to keep asking why we are still voting on these computers --

asking about the role of the LARGE computers used by corporate-press/MSM not only in

supporting the lies of our elections, but in REVERSING the 2000 election.

We have to keep asking why the computers don't concern our Democratic Party officials

at all since they're on the losing end -- ???

[deacon]

21. Click + Recommend!

[Imagevision]

22. Coke Bros. bring it on, your money is only so efficient

[blm]

34. Exposing them as much as possible is a doable task at this point

it might not be in the future

[defendandprotect]

56. kr

[Raine]

23. Absolutely! nt

[indimuse]

24. knr! n/t

[HCE SuiGeneris]

25. K & R

[EFerrari]

27. I don't understand the surrprise and panic.

But it's good to see this registering with people.

[blm]

28. I'm not surprised....but, I'm going to prod those who are into taking proactive steps.

But...you knew that. ; )

[EFerrari]

31. Yes.

:)

[SpiralHawk]

29. the k

and the r

[cascadiance]

30. They will lie! They will lie! They will Lie!.... KOCHAINE!!!!

Where's the kochaine?...

It's runnin' all 'round my brain!

[blm]

32. Danziger needs to add Kasich, Snyder, et al, snorting lines with Walker.

.

[lonestarnot]

35. K & R!

[bongbong]

36. Posted in another thread

I posted this as a reply to Shallah Kali in another thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x566296
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"So how have Rubio’s backers fared so far in terms of getting a return on their investment?"

Interesting question; it made me muse a bit on the old cliche/idea of "the banality of evil". But I think we have a new phenomena here in modern fascist right wing America - the stupidity of evil.

In the old days, you had to be crafty and/or smart to "succeed" as an evil fuck. But now we have stupid, stupid idiots doing the evil. I suppose that it might not be the "stupidity of evil", but rather the "stupidity of evil puppets". Think shrub, Grifter Grizzly, Huckabee, Scott Walker, etc. None of those guys are going to be let anywhere near the real levers of power. Even Cheney said his favorite TV channel was Fox (although he might have just been lying). Smart evil fucks don't listen to Fox because they know it is a source of lies. They want to get the truth, and then twist it. One exception: in the end stages of evil fucks you have denial-of-the-truth like when Hitler was moving imaginary battalions around on maps in his Berlin bunker in 1945.

Coming back to your question, the Koch Brothers are most likely one of the real levers of power. The fact that they have dropped the pretense of hiding behind the puppets and are making public policy appearances is interesting. Have they gotten a return on their investment? I would say no since they have awakened a moribund middle class to fight against them. This specific point is what got me started on the theme of "the stupidity of evil". Are these Koch brothers so stupid that they didn't see this happening? I guess not so much stupid as "filled with hubris". These fat cats are to the point to where they think, at least to some degree, they really are dictators who can do what they want with no blowback. The word blowback makes me think of CIA guys whose actions cause so much blowback - are they stupid, or playing 11 dimensional chess? And are the Koch Brothers, Scaife, Coors, etc etc stupid - or playing 11 dimensional chess?

[blm]

41. yep...they tapped into the useful idiots of the GOP, just like the Bushes did. NWO fascism.

and the dumbasses let them

[Blue Owl]

37. K&R

:kick:

[tavalon]

38. kick

[Stuart G]

39. K and R

I found it at You Tube..and put it up in our video forum..needs to be up there always...

[blm]

42. excellent

.

[Uncle Joe]

43. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, blm.

[hifiguy]

44. KICK!

:kick:

[freshwest]

45. Get the facts out before it's too late!

[blindpig]

46. The Koch Bros are the new Monsanto.

We focus on these 'bad actors' when they are a symptom and not the cause. Sure they are slimy, but are they so much worse than the US Chamber of Commerce or the National Association of Manufacturers? By focusing upon these 'bad actors' we give a fatal pass to the systemic nature of our problems. With capitalism if it wasn't the Koch brothers it would be some other shitheads, like William Volker.

http://socialistindependent.org/anax01.htm

[xchrom]

47. recommend

[colsohlibgal]

48. 1000%

No Koch products for me, and I've heard from a lot of my friends who plan to boycott them too. Let's hit them where it hurts.

[blm]

49. A Boycott Koch Products thread needs to be posted EVERY DAY!

.

[alfredo]

50. They got their money the old fashion way, they got it from Stalin.

[Kip Humphrey]

51. Nationwide boycott of Koch Industries products would be a good 1st step: Koch Bros shit outta luck!

[LongTomH]

52. This is also on YouTube

From MoxNewsDotCom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfxR5gb3WyA

[vanbean]

53. Don't forget that their own brother blew the whistle on their stealing oil by

cheating on the measurments when they sold it from their refineries. They paid a $25,000,000 fine when they were caught, but their theft made them $230,000,000. What a deal, their own brother said that the Koch company was organized crime on 60 minutes.

[defendandprotect]

55. Stealing oil from the Indians --- amazing!!

[defendandprotect]

54. kick

[CrossChris]

57. The brilliance of Glenn Beck---our side won't want to connect the dots, or call him a Nazi because..

none of us will want to look like Glenn Beck. Even though most of us could get up there on the big chalkboard, and prove their Nazi ties, and their hold over our society.

[OnyxCollie]

58. K&R. nt

[taught_me_patience]

59. Fo Shizzle... K&R!

[snappyturtle]

60. K&R Put on my Facebook page. This will rile a few I'm sure....I hope! nt

[MissDeeds]

61. K&R

And bookmarked.

[certainot]

62. their most important weapon is talk radio - all the left has to do is

stop giving them a free speech free ride!

complain to and boycott their LOCAL sponsors (of the stations- especially the limbaugh megastations) and picket those stations that are located in public places.

[Raoul]

63. As usual - wrong!!!

You're going after the wrong culprits. The real ones are the assholes who enable scum like the Koch bros to operate. Your politicians, your pres and everyone in Washington. I use the word 'your' because I am no longer in the system. I've dropped out for good and couldn't care less what happens any longer. My family is protected and quite frankly, that's all I care about at this stage in life. I've been around assholes my entire life who have enabled evil scum to exist. I've been battling this all my life and am now finished fighting. I'll just sit back and watch everyone else get hissy fits over this bullshit.

[Octafish]

64. Compay, they OWN the politicians.

Like the Kochs have ever worked a day in their lives.
Come to think of it, neither have most politicians.
The thing is, the Kochs want something done, they pull a string.

[blm]

68. Who controls the politicians? Kochs need full exposure because they're a key SOURCE

of money and ideas for the politicians willing to do their bidding.

[Maraya1969]

66. I put it up on FB with "Please Share" and also sent it directly to some people

who are vocal progressives.

The more I learn about that family the more it disturbs me.

[DeSwiss]

67. K&R

[bobthedrummer]

69. ^Wisconsin is the main front-it's spreading though^ n/t