Is there anyone priests did not abuse in America-US Jesuits agree to school sex abuse pay-out

[malaise]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12868046
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An order of US Catholic priests has agreed to pay $166.1m (£103.3m) to hundreds of Native Americans sexually abused by priests at its schools.

The former students at Jesuit schools in five states of the north-western US said they were abused from the 1940s through the 1990s.

Under a settlement, the Society of Jesus, Oregon Province, will also apologise to the victims.

The order had argued paying out abuse claims would cause it to go bankrupt.

"It's a day of reckoning and justice," Clarita Vargas, who said she and two sisters were abused by a priest at a Jesuit-run school for Native American children in the state of Washington, told the Associated Press.

[Luminous Animal]

1. I'm beginning to detect a pattern here. Are Catholic orders cabals for pedophiles?

[malaise]

2. Sure looks that way

It's sickening

[GKirk]

4. Agreed!

I just wonder were all these perverts lured into the priesthood somehow?
Or did each one come up with the idea independently that the priesthood
would be the place to go to pursue their sick desires?

[PDJane]

10. The priests are given the understanding

that they will be protected after they do these things. It's encouragement.

[malaise]

12. Well the police and the judicial branch did very little

they also had politicians in their hands. What a criminal cabal!

[PDJane]

9. Aye........

And sadistic, emotionally abusive, vicious pedophiles.....ever heard of the Magdalene Laundries? The Sisters of Mercy? Residetial schools?

Jaysus.

[Luminous Animal]

13. I went to Catholic school in the 60s. I was whacked on the hands with a yard stick...

numerous times, locked in a closet for several hours numerous times, made to stand in a corner holding all of my books for hours numerous times, spanked with my skirt lifted up in front of the class numerous times.. Witnessed regular abuse of other kids... usually the poorest amongst us.

[PDJane]

14. Oh, of course........

didn't you know that the poor and defenseless have to be abused so that they can see the light?

It's arrant hypocrisy.

[Luminous Animal]

31. It was a sin to complain. It was a sin to tell your parents.

[defendandprotect]

23. Think the psychological abuse of the religion itself was the harshest to withstand ....

we had a 6th grade lay teacher who only talked about martyrs all day long --

every detail -- people being buried alive -- on and on!!

But we also had our share of students whose heads were cracked against the blackboard --

and humiliation was very big with the Sisters of "Charity" -- !!!

I had a very high score on an IQ test -- and rather than compliments and mentoring --

I was hit on the head with it -- and had it tossed at me!!

Slapping people in the face was also big --

My 7th grade nun was very large -- and though the boys were separated and in the hands

of the Jesuits -- if she caught any of these highschool boys misbehaving it would be

nothing for her to flip over over her shoulder!!

[SharonAnn]

16. Insular groups of men often do bad things.

A Woman’s Place Is in the Church

The cause of the Catholic clergy's sex-abuse scandal is no mystery: insular groups of men often do bad things. So why not break up the all-male club?


Studies show what we intuitively know: without checks and balances, insular groups of men do bad things. History professor Nicholas Syrett, author of The Company He Keeps: A History of White College Fraternities, says studies suggest that 70 to 90 percent of gang rapes on college campuses are committed by men in fraternities. Obviously, he adds, important differences exist between the Roman Catholic hierarchy and college frats—”fraternity men are encouraged to have sex with lots of women. Clearly priests are not.” But in both cases, “men are encouraged to believe that they are in positions of power for a reason…I do think if the hierarchy of the Catholic Church doesn’t discipline these people because they are concerned about reputation, they create a space where those are led to believe that whatever they do is OK.”

Newsweek, April 2, 2010
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/02/a-woman-s-place-is-in-the-church.html

[Luminous Animal]

27. Every bit of my physical abuse was perpetrated by nuns.

[Liberal_in_LA]

24. seems like it. The priests themselves are molested in the seminaries then go out and molest

Not all of them, I know

[RKP5637]

3. Always intrigues me that those that are pious, always preaching about morality, the

rest of the stuff are often the perpetrators. Yes, a definite pattern, across religions, politicians, etc. Cover up by blaming others of immorality, remove the suspicions to oneself, point at others.

[malaise]

6. You're so right

I fear the pious most of all

[al_liberal]

5. Now the Republicans want to give them tax refunds.

For employing Native Americans from 1940s-1990s.

[malaise]

7. Anything that would make them bankrupt

is good enough for me - pay up.

[Pisces]

8. I don't think they molested rich white kids, just the poor ones. The depth of this depravity

should make any current Catholic question the entire church and the Pope who knew about many if not all of the offenses.

[malaise]

11. I left all religion as a teenager but some of my siblings

remained in the church for a few years - they all left and took their kids with them

[Pisces]

15. I was raised in the Church but left in my teens. Religion is about exclusion of large groups of

people. Being spiritual or believing in God has nothing to do with following religious doctrine.

I like the concept that we are all borrowed energy from the universe. When we die our energy goes back to the universe. I do not like to bash people's beliefs, however, the Catholic Church has cornered the world in pedophilia and I have no idea how the leaders of world allow these priests, cardinals, bishops and the Pope to evade the law. Money does not solve this problem.

[malaise]

32. I have no faith in any gods

I believe in the laws of nature.

[SharonAnn]

18. I know several rich, white, popular boys who were molested by priests.

One of them was my brother.

Our high school principal molested my class president, the son of a prominent lawyer. When the father found out about it 6 years later, that priest was gone overnight. But then he resurfaced within a year heading up the Newman Center at the state university. A place full of more teenagers.

[eridani]

29. The pedophila is about statistics and human nature. The crime of the Church--

--was the longstanding arrogant and amoral institutional response to it.

[TheMadMonk]

19. Oh rich white kids recieved their share.

Consider the old practice of "fagging" in exclusive boarding schools, where a younger student would act as a servant to older students. To put it bluntly, the daily anal rape of younger boys was, an entirely unremarked practice.

The hazing of military cadets too has at times included practices indistunguisable from rape. And there is substantial evidence that such practices remain alive and kicking within the military even today.


And in all cases it really boils down to binding individuals together into a unit distinct from society at large.


I won't say the Catholic Church deliberately encouraged the sexual exploitations of children, but to exploit knowledge of such activity to tie such sinners more securely to the organisation, THAT I beleive is one of the true reasons behind the church coverup. Combined with the normal reluctance to air dirty laundry, such coverups eventually drag entire memberships, will he, nil she, into the conspriacy regardless of their individual guilt.

And in the middle of that, blossom some real flowers of putresence, where the enforced participation in some act of attrocity is used to forever bind you "heart and soul" to "The Organisation"/"The Company" (I wonder who that is?)/The Crips/The Bloods/etc. Murder and partcipating in gang rape (including offering up your own sister) stand high on such lists of "things to do".

[Rage for Order]

17. Positions of authority tend to attract abusers

It allows them to find victims who won't question them

[defendandprotect]

22. Sad -- but logical -- !!

[The Straight Story]

20. Reminds me of school teachers I read about a lot

People in power, who have defenseless kids under their care, will - at times (regardless if it is a church/school/etc) abuse those kids.

[defendandprotect]

21. And the Jesuits were the elites of the priesthood --! Anyone notice W came along with taxpayer

subsidies for "faith based" religious organizations just when the Vatican most needed

the money to pay off their pedophile priest lawsuits -- ????

The members were rising up because of the selling off of churches, schools --

Most of these faith based religious organizations are Catholic --

Haven't seen as much anger among Catholics since -- but maybe it's just not being shown?

[defendandprotect]

25. This Catholic and Mormon abuse of Native Americans in Church schools goes waaaay back ....

to the time when the US government was kidnapping Indian children to destroy the

native ways -- they were brutalized in those schools -- the Mormon school was the

most notorious -- but there were beatings, hangings, murders, rapes, every kind of

sexual abuse -- and their language and culture stolen from them. After they entered

the school they weren't permitted to speak their own language any longer. Clothing

was changed to European -- hair/braids cut. Very brutal!!


Russel Means wrote a book on it -- "Where White Men Fear to Tread" --

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_29?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=where+white+men+fear+to+tread&sprefix=where+white+men+fear+to+tread

among much other stuff, he discusses those schools in that book -

[EFerrari]

26. Me and my brother.

When our mom went out there on alcohol for a few years, we were as vulnerable as possible. Our parish priest was great to us and helped us in all kinds of ways. Father Al.

[cilla4progress]

28. I worked on the Colville Indian Reservation

and met women whose lives were wrecked by these Black Robes. It was hit and miss....but definitely a fact of life for an unlucky group. Glad they will have some justice, after all.

[LAGC]

30. That's an awful lot of money.

I wonder how most Catholics feel about their hard-earned donations and tithes going to pay for all these expensive law-suits?