We need a nationwide solution to companies that move state to state to avoid taxes.

[Pisces]

When you try to tax a corporation they threaten to move to another state thereby making one state lose jobs. This is a circle jerk, Caterpillar is going to move out of Illinois if the taxes are not
reduced. What are states to do??

I believe we need a nationwide tax structure for businesses, with stiff tariffs for any company that moves out of the country ( any company producing a product in the last 20 yrs in the states moves to produce them outside of the country to avoid taxes would pay a stiff tariff.)

States are being blackmailed by companies whether you are a Republican governor or a Democratic one, no one can afford to lose jobs in this economic environment.

Does anyone here have any solutions???

[aquart]

1. Guillotine.

[Drale]

2. How about we tax to hell out of them at the national level

then they won't care what state taxes are, and if they try to leave the country, they are no longer able to do any business here what so ever.

[RKP5637]

5. Who is going to do that with the corporate bought politicians we have today ... n/t

[Drale]

7. I don't know how its gonna get done, plus

its just an idea.

[RKP5637]

9. I know, I often think the same, and something like that is what needs to be done. It's just

so damn frustrating basically watching this country being raped.

[Cleita]

26. What if the Feds agree to let the States keep a

large part of the federal taxes collected? Then the states wouldn't have to offer sweetheart deals to corporations to get them to do business in their state.

[RKP5637]

3. We need a complete review of the entire financial structure of the US, but who is

going to do that when we have a plutocracy and politicians are often bought and paid for by the ones we are looking to reform. Frankly, we have legalized crime / extortion operating across the country.

[Urban Prairie]

4. Stake upper mgmt spread-eagled, and nude next to a disturbed nest of a fire-ant colony

Seriously though, there isn't much that can be done w/o cooperation between states to avoid raiding/seducing each other's private companies located in their states with tax abatements and incentives.

[Curmudgeoness]

6. I have always said that there should be a federal law against

the practice of tax abatements. It has to come from the federal government, because any state that would enact a law like this is committing suicide.

If these tax abatements are to continue, there has to be oversight as to the number of jobs they create and how long they stay in a location. Too many companies promise 250 jobs and never get above 25 jobs, but still keep the abatement.

I am becoming a total protectionist these days as to companies with manufacturing outside of the US. Don't even get me started on that!

[Pisces]

8. I agree. It must be a nationwide tax or tariff. Why should companies get away with paying

no taxes by moving their companies every 10 yrs???. Gotta show those profits for the stock market even when profits are down.

[RKP5637]

10. Companies have more incentives in this country to have all employees outside of the

country than within. It's an insane F'en system, and it handsomely rewards those keeping it that way. All that's been done to date IMO is to prop up the same failed financial system, rewarding those at the top and screwing the rest, failed trickle down voodoo economics at its best.

[Curmudgeoness]

12. Why is it that our government doesn't see this. We pay taxes.

If we are not working, or earning a decent wage, we are not paying taxes. And lord help us if we get taxes from the ones who are doing well in this economy. I just don't get it.

[RKP5637]

15. A number of politicians are bought and paid for by the ones we should be reforming, so some

politicians do nothing, and the flip side hasn't occurred yet as you discussed, when the system fails because taxes can't fuel the system, as we see happening now. It's a downward spiral.

And, many politicians are insular to the mess occurring, some will shift money globally to still make out OK. US is not a country anymore to many, it's just a geographical location to ripoff for money, and they will move assets globally, as needed, to maintain their profits. The big money rollers in this country (really big money) have this down to a science, micro-trading as necessary as yet another tool.

For many politicians serving in government is just another line of business to work the system for profit ensuring corporate favors and the like. It's one big game, and we ain't the winners. The system is rigged. As brutal as it might seem, we probably needed another Great Depression to reset the system. The way it is, we have business as usual, with only token reform at least IMO.

[Horse with no Name]

11. Me too.

Protectionism. Tariffs.

Fuck globalism. All it does it benefit the wealthy to use the world as a Monopoly board. It does NOTHING for the common folks.

[Curmudgeoness]

13. Well, it is a global economy now. Get used to it. At least,

that is what I am told every day. Maybe I just don't get it. All I know is that something has to be changed.

[glinda]

21. Yes but if a Company gives little to nothing back to here, they should pay for the

losses. A Company that uses the US as a base with no returns should be asked to give up their US status. Let them move. We need patriotic people who care about this Country creating jobs here.

[RKP5637]

14. I really think NAFTA/CAFTA is a failed mess. Maybe the initial idea was fine, but

the implementation sucks IMO.

[Curmudgeoness]

28. These free trade agreements are a failed mess, to us workers.

To the companies who pushed for them, they are great.

The problem was that we were told these agreements would raise the conditions and standard of living in other countries. This was a lie and the PTB knew it. Instead, we are now being told that we expect too much, have too much, make to much. This is bringing us down closer to these country's conditions instead of improving them. This was the plan, we just weren't told about it.

Now that is a brilliant way to get the "liberal elite" behind these trade agreements---point them to how we will be helping these poor countries move forward.

[RKP5637]

29. The "system" works against the majority of Americans, why so many can't seem to

get that is getting beyond me. It doesn't take a lot of smarts and/or tremendous research to see what is happing to this country. Many can drive in their neighborhood and see it, but yet so many Americans seemingly choose to remain ignorant. And they vote in just absolutely dreadful politicians.

[Curmudgeoness]

30. Beyond me too. Depressing. nt

[drm604]

16. Start arresting them for extortion when they make such threats.

Probably not possible, but I can dream.

[lonestarnot]

17. Let the fuckers go, throw there asses out, send them to China!

[glinda]

22. Agreed. No more freeloading.

[napoleon_in_rags]

18. Simple solution: Tax their PRODUCTS.

If they want to leave the state, they won't be selling in that state, without a hefty tariff being paid.

I can't WAIT for Republicans to bring on that Libertarian state where they will finally learn that that in the absence of the state, corporate entities play the same role, and will enforce embargoes SO much worse than this for corporate non-compliance. Just SICK - OF -STUPIDITY here. That is all...

[Riftaxe]

19. Ahh so once your done pissing on the 14th Amendment

any others you want to trash?

Why limit to state lines? Surely you could find enough people with your idealogical bent to check papers at municipal and county lines? (Maybe buy some surplus UPS uniforms, they seem to be the right color)

[Hugabear]

24. What does the 14th amendment have to do with taxing corporations?

Do you believe that corporations should be required to pay their fair share? Do you think it's okay for corporations to pick up and move in order to avoid paying taxes, and causing hundreds or thousands of job losses in the process?

[DatManFromNawlins]

27. Businesses will always move to the best environment for business

People need to be honest here: they aren't worried about businesses moving because people are losing their jobs. That's nonsensical, because the people in the states that these businesses move to GAIN jobs. What they're really upset about is businesses moving to states that have more business-friendly environments, aka, right to work states.

Nobody here would even think to whine if a large Mississippi corporation moved to Michigan or Massachusetts.

[lynne]

20. Last I checked it was legal to move from one state to another -

- and states will have to come up with other incentives if they don't want to lose the businesses. And lets not forget that people also migrate to other places based upon tax rates, cost of living, etc. It's a perfectly natural and very legal way for a person to reduce their cost of living.

[Kablooie]

23. The solution is for all states to eliminate corporate taxes. (?) I guess.

[Hugabear]

25. Solution: enact hefty federal taxes. If they leave the country, slap huge tariffs on them

Slap hefty taxes at the federal level, then it doesn't matter what state they're in. If they want to leave the country, they'll have to pay a high tariff on any goods they want to sell in this country.