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Fri Mar-25-11 10:34 PM
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How are we going to pay for the Libyan war again? nt |
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Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 10:39 PM by grahamhgreen
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Fri Mar-25-11 10:43 PM
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1. Any way your Grandkids want to is OK. nt |
The Straight Story
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Fri Mar-25-11 10:45 PM
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2. tax smokers, tax abortions, tax fast food - anything we don't like and want to control |
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Fri Mar-25-11 10:51 PM
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4. LOL. Let's tax fat people, pit bulls, and too-much-cologne. |
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Okay, mine were sillier.
But in all seriousness, it's ultimately going to come from taxes. Wars are very, very expensive.
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Fri Mar-25-11 10:55 PM
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7. Indeed - and the more money we need, the more we will tax people over all sorts of things |
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It is interesting to watch what people want to tax first and so on.
Easiest solution is to end wars, cut military spending, put more money into social programs which have a better rate of return (social programs pay people who spend money here in the US - military spending is going overseas and tax breaks for the rich just allow them more cash to invest in china/india).
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:07 PM
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14. Your latter statement is excellent, but the MIC is too entrenched, how will that get changed? n/t |
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:08 PM
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15. I couldn't agree more. |
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These days, it's like the Sherriff of Nottingham sniffing around the peasants, looking for reasons to tax the poor, meanwhile, he leaves the feudal lords alone.
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:02 PM
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11. How about a tax on cruise missiles? Or blood-for-oil "diplomacy"? |
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Sat Mar-26-11 08:28 PM
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31. We should have a sin tax tax. Anyone who wants to propose a sin tax must first pay a tax of $9999.nt |
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Fri Mar-25-11 10:47 PM
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3. I heard it's not costing anything. |
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We're getting our missiles from Tomahawk trees we've got growing somewhere.
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Fri Mar-25-11 10:52 PM
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of the American people will be extreme to pay for the war machine.
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Fri Mar-25-11 10:53 PM
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6. Don't expect any direct answers. |
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When I asked, (1)got chided for not understanding the posting rules, (2)what the war mission was (3)that the Defense Dept would just move some money around. I concluded that support outweighs any concerns of what it's costing - in other words, when you're saving people's lives cost is no object. Too bad that doesn't apply to all circumstances.
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Fri Mar-25-11 10:58 PM
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8. I dunno. I propose we raise the taxes of the people who support this and no one else's |
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You want it? You pay for it. The insult to injury is that those of us fighting this bullshit get stuck with the bill too. Of course, they'd never do such a thing.
I ain't paying for it no more. Last year I quit my job and dropped out of the system. The warhawks can't have my money anymore. I'll toil hard but not to subsidize that, not for what America has become.
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:01 PM
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10. I like that. Or war by donation like a PBS station. |
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:13 PM
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18. Ultimate outcome would be no money for war. Then what would they do? |
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I really wish we had such fairness in a system where the people we pay to supposedly represent us aren't even consulted and war hawks tell us to is perfectly fine.
They'd never allow it since they have no intention of paying themselves or of using our money to help the working class, or non-working class in today's case.
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Sat Mar-26-11 12:12 PM
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30. They might have to get a real job (no sick leave,no health care-- |
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:00 PM
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9. More tax cuts for Jeff Immelt? |
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:05 PM
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12. Right! I should have asked, "what taxes can we cut to pay for the war?" |
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:05 PM
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13. YA know, I've been thinking about that too, and & suspect |
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the costs you are hearing thrown around right now are bogus. At least in reality. Those missiles the talking heads refer to are really doing nothing more than reducing inventory. Sure they probably did cost that much to purchase, but that money is gone! I also question where those planes are from and were they flying maneuvers somewhere which was already costing us the price of the fuel and man hours. IF Obama mens what he said about this being days not weeks or months, it seems to me that whatever the cost to do this Libya venture likely isn't costing us much at all. It's te long drawn out wars in Afghan & Iraq that are draining us dry.
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:11 PM
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16. LOL. It's like "buy two wars, get one free!" |
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"Those missiles the talking heads refer to are really doing nothing more than reducing inventory... It's te long drawn out wars in Afghan & Iraq that are draining us dry."
Logic problem: if we have "surpluses" of men, machines, and ordinance, how can Afghanistan and Iraq be said to be "draining" us? :crazy:
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:23 PM
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21. There are fighter pilots stationed at many of those overseas bases. They fly almost, if not every |
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day to hone their skills and keep sharp. I don't know if that's where our planes came from, but if I were Prez, that's who I'd send to do a short term stint. It's also a different kind of fighting that we're doing in Afghan than over Libya. DIfferent ordinance.
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:44 PM
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23. If we can afford to fly daily training sorties at bases all around the world, |
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on the off chance that a third, or a fourth, or a fifth or sixth war should need to be launched, then our military is demonstrably not "drained". :hi:
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:13 PM
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17. That's my concern with all this, similar to yours, are the long term implications. If this |
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is short term, then the costs are probably part of the budget. Anyway you dice it, it's for sure the US is going to be sinking a lot of money into Africa if only for our presence and influence, all of that kind of stuff. There are going to be whole new regimes to deal with ...
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Sat Mar-26-11 11:25 AM
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27. That's like saying you can drive to work for free because you already bought the gas in |
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:15 PM
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:17 PM
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20. How are we paying for the other two BS wars? |
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At least this military action has some potential to actually be helping someone!!
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Fri Mar-25-11 11:40 PM
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22. Easy. Give more tax breaks to the MIC and the rich. |
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And, then, as usual, soak the poor and middle-class and tell them it's really for their own good and it will trickle down to them some time..maybe..if there aren't more wars..and the Chamber of Commerce approves.
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Sat Mar-26-11 01:00 AM
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24. AGAIN?! Hell, how are we going to pay for it the first time? |
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I'm serious with this, one, actually.
Haven't you heard? We're going to bill Qaddafi for it; he's got these big storehouses of gold and scads of money sprinkled all over the place. It's like a friend of mine who got arrested for a DUI, and then got a bill for the arrest.
They've got it all figured out. Just trust them. It's Chess.
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Sat Mar-26-11 01:05 AM
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25. Defunding NPR, cutting social security, slashing public education, etc. |
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Look, we have to tighten our belts--fiscal crisis and all.
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Sat Mar-26-11 11:23 AM
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26. Apparently, you are right, none of the pro war crowd will answer this one. |
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Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 12:09 PM by grahamhgreen
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Sat Mar-26-11 12:07 PM
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28. A conspicuous silence indeed. More war! Less jobs! n/t |
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Sat Mar-26-11 12:09 PM
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29. Maybe Michele Bachmann's goose will lay golden eggs when |
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Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 12:12 PM by Cleita
she becomes President. I understand that her only positive in real life is being able to raise tons of money. Maybe those geese who supply her might be taxed.
Edited for clarity.
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