I'm tired

[unhappycamper]

As I drive around Massachusetts, I’m amazed at the potholes and just plain crappy roads throughout the greater Boston region. You must understand that roads up here in New England take one hellova beating through the winter months, but we’re talking serious potholes on I-95 /Rt 128 that could almost swallow a Volkswagen. (If you happen to be doing 70 or 75 MPH and hit one of these bad boys, plan on getting your wheels realigned.)

I’m tired of all the bullshit about public employees making too much money. That is true if you happen to be the Superintendent of Schools in Boston ($300+ K) but it is a flat lie when you’re talking about clerks, policemen, firemen and teachers a.k.a. middle class folks.

I’m tired of hearing all the bullshit about standardized testing and Charter Schools (a.k.a. privatization). Let’s face it – if Jeb Bush is for Charter Schools, I am against them.

I’m tired about hearing all the bullshit about city and state governments being broke. Of course they’re broke – you assholes in DC insist on spending all our money in Iraq and Afghanistan. California? Tough shit. New Jersey? Tough shit. You can do this for virtually every state in the union.

So what exactly are we getting for the trillion dollars a year we spend on the military? Well, we get to test new weapons systems on human beings. Boeing, Lockheed Martin, General Atomics are grateful for your tax dollars. In other words, nothing to help your life along, now or in the future.

I’m tired of the Teabaggers spouting their bullshit about cutting the budget (to make up for all the bucks we’re sending to the sandbox and the M-I-C). You fuckers want to save some money? Here’s a few suggestions where to find that low hanging fruit:

1. Cut the military budget to $400 billion dollars, and insist that Veteran’s benefits come out of that pot. And insist that all weapons systems also come out that pot. Convince me why our annual ($150+ billion dollar) occupations costs should NOT come out of the $400 billion dollar pot.
   
   
2. Stop building that $40 billion dollar USS Gerald R, Ford aircraft carrier.
   
   
3. Forget about that $243,000 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. We can get by with $86 million dollar F/A-18 Hornets.
   
   
4. Stop building those $5 billion dollars Zumwalt-class destroyers. $5 billion dollars for a fricking destroyer? Gimmeafucking break. Nimitz class carriers used to cost ‘only’ $4.5 billion dollars.
   
   
5. Stop building those $100 million dollar MV-22 Ospreys. These suckers are down for maintenance almost as often as they are ready for a mission. And the last I heard they were melting the decks of ships they tried landing on.
   

Lastly, I’m tired of Democrats grabbing their ankles and bending over every time some Republican or Teabagger wants to cut a social program. Speaking for myself only, I'm talking about most democrats from my warmongering congresscritter Steven Lynch (D-MA-09) right up to the Big Guy.

[hobbit709]

1. I got your back on this.

[Syrinx]

2. I hear you brother

The roads from Alabama to California are shit, and the theft continues. Unabated.

[DrDan]

3. I would consider a $243,000 F-35 JSF to be a heck of a bargain - but that's just me

[bhikkhu]

32. Must be a typo - try $150 Million

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/04/07/91737/defense-dept-says-f-35-fighter.html

Though even that may be last year's optimistic estimate.

[mdmc]

4. r

[democrank]

5. Stop complaining

Corporations are people and war is peace. Just nod, then write a check to the DNC.

[TxVietVet]

48. I stop giving money to the DNC when Pelosi said impeachment was off the table.

No more money from me. I support candidates, not the party. Good progressive candidates just happen to be Democrats.
I've written many letters concerning this and NEVER have received an answer. So, no answer, no money.

[LuckyLib]

56. Ditto here. Not one dime to the DNC. n/t

[MissDeeds]

64. Same here

That's when I realized the party had jumped the shark. Inexcusable and indefensible.

[kimsarah]

83. Ditto here

For those and hundreds of other reasons. Thousands if I bothered to count.

[TxVietVet]

95. At least I'm not alone. But the Dems don't hear us. Look at Wisconsin.

[FlyByNight]

6. Empire enforcement is expensive...

...and extremely lucrative for those in the right places within the MICC.

We'll all get "austerity" while the Wall St.-Washington axis remains blissfully oblivious.

[Fly by night]

66. Hmmm, where have I heard that nickname before?

Thought you were going to change it.

Guess not.

[bvar22]

73. The Wall St.-Washington axis is NOT "oblivious".

The beg for our votes.
They KNOW we are down here.
The KNOW they are shitting on us.



They just don't care.

[Owlet]

7. Stop making weapons?

Never gonna happen.

"As defense giants like Boeing, Raytheon (RTN, Fortune 500), and Lockheed Martin (LMT, Fortune 500) increasingly seek to peddle their wares to well-financed (sometimes by the U.S.) international customers, they have a surprising ally: the President. "Obama is much more favorably disposed to arms exports than any of the previous Democratic administrations," says Loren Thompson, a veteran defense consultant. Or, as Jeff Abramson, deputy director of the Arms Control Association, puts it: "There's an Obama arms bazaar going on."

America's Profitable Exports

[avaistheone1]

14. Obama doesn't want to go backwards.

:sarcasm:


Actually thank you for posting this. It shows who Obama really is. What a hypocrisy that Nobel prize is around his neck!















k&r

[NICO9000]

41. It took me two years to finally come to the same conclusion

Dreams die hard, I guess. I cannot longer maintain the fiction that Obama is something resembling a progressive. His repeated cave-ins to pricks who would string him up 70 or so years ago tells me his convictions about a lot of things seem tentative at best. The fact he was so gung-ho with this Libya thing explains it all to me.

:-(

[kimsarah]

84. Welcome

Welcome to our support group. You have finally overcome denial.

[russspeakeasy]

42. Backward? Shit, I'd be happy if he stayed in the same place for

a month or two.. Find those comfortable shoes yet, sir?

[tpsbmam]

39. Jesus, I missed that one. Unbefuckinglievable! Yet at this point, no surprise nt

[xchrom]

8. recommend

[XanaDUer]

9. Amen

It's a drag looking around Crumbling America.

[somone]

10. And the guy who signs the budget into law

has no idea what he's signing :sarcasm:

[w8liftinglady]

11. I'm tired of that shit,too friend.

I see the beneficiaries of our collective "Kindness" at work.

there are people fucking SUFFERING in our nation.
Starving.
Hurting.
Cold.
Hopeless.


Our government doesn't give a collective shit about the unspoken anymore...as long as they get Their tax break.

[Catherina]

12. Tired too. Disgusted and not taking it sitting back quietly. Rec'd n/t

[truth2power]

19. I clicked on your "Angry Arab News Service". Thanks for posting that...

Don't have time to read it, now, but will check it out later.

edit> typo

[Catherina]

26. You're welcome.

It's very informative. Enjoy

[jillan]

13. I am adding to your list - I am tired of the rw wackos controlling the message & of Democratic

leaders that don't have the balls to change it.

It seems like everything political has to do with what the repugs want. We have to bend down and kiss their butts to get a teeny piece of what we want... whether it's healthcare, energy, war, jobs, taxes, education - ugh the list goes on and on.

We respond to their demands. When are the repugs going to be forced to respond to our demands?

[NCarolinawoman]

21. *

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[kimsarah]

85. You betcha!

:patriot:

[defendandprotect]

22. Wm. Greider makes clear in "Who Will Tell The People?" that Dems collaborated with Repugs ...

on changing tax code for the benefit of elites back to 1978!!!

He wrote this book in '92 -- and I read it long ago -- and re-reading it now --

hope at some point to get a little thread going on it --

What we have to remember is that we are relying on millionaires and multi-millionaires

to change things!

And, unfortunately, this influence on private interests has also penetrated our local

and state governments.

If we don't begin to regain control of this and turn it around, where are we going from here?

Child labor? 12 hour work day - 7 days a week?

[LibDemAlways]

90. The demands of ordinary people go unheard or ignored.

The politicians of both parties (with damn few exceptions) only pay attention to the demands of their corporate and military masters.

[defendandprotect]

15. Agree!! But we can't get where you want to go with the Repugs or Dems we have now -- !!

The Righwing Koch Bros. Funded the DLC --

http://www.democrats.com/node/7789

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x498414


At the best, we can only pick up what's left of this party and walk away with it --

moving towards "democrats" who aren't yet inside the party -- pre-bribed and pre-owned.

Sen. Bernie Sanders could run on the Dem Party ticket --

So could someone like Tom Hayden -- we need two strong anti-war candidates!!

We have tons of democrats who could run on the Dem Party ticket --

presuming there is anything left of this party to work with!!

:(

[NYC_SKP]

16. Recommended. nt

:kick:

[lonestarnot]

17. Highly fucking recommend!

[butterfly77]

18. Kicked&Recommended...

[defendandprotect]

20. Also highly suspect we can't change this as long as we're voting on computers --!!!

And -- we're not discussing it here at DU, but we have also the complications of

the LARGE computers used by corporate-press/MSM since the mid-1960's which gave them

new powers to PREDICT and CALL elections -- PREDICT and CALL winners and losers --

PREDICT and CALL Electloral College votes by states --

What we saw in 2000 was simply a REVERSAL of those new powers.

And obviously they can be manipulated just as any other computer report can be.


The voting computers began to come in during the late 1960's -- I'd question every

election back to Nixon/Humphrey! In fact, I doubt there ever was a "Southern Strategy" --

maybe all they ever had was computers.


How can it be that the party which has had so much to lose from election theft by computer

is totally disinterested in the subject?

Some Dems say that the party has made it a taboo subject because they fear that if Democrats

though that elections weren't fair that they'd stop voting!!!

Really???!!!

Who does that point of view protect except those who own the GOP voting computers and

the right wing?







Two journalists in Florida began to investigate the odd and unsubstianted results they

were seeing in their state in the late 1960's --


Their book can be read at the website -- it's also available here and there for $3 a copy --

http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm

[Fly by night]

67. + 1,000,000 (though we have discussed this issue here quite a bit)

Now that the Republicans control our state -- not because they have the support of the majority of the people in Tennessee (8% more of us identify as Dems as opposed to dumbo-asses) but because they control the programming of our machines -- I told a friend that I can tell when I'm finished voting in my precinct when I touch the "cast your vote" button on the touch-screen and the screen lights up with a big red

"!!!SUCKER!!!"

[defendandprotect]

93. Well,

what I was referring to in "not discussing" comment was really the LARGE

computers used by corporate-press/MSM -- which they used to REVERSE the calling

of Florida for Gore -- later calling it for Bush.

I remember the days when they didn't have the computer/CRYSTAL BALL to PREDICT

and CALL elections -- or Electoral College Votes -- or CALL an election for a president.

They might have gotten a little panel together to guess at which way a district or

state might go -- but they do waaaay more now!

Pre the LARGE computers they reported elections based on actual vote tallies --


Also -- you might find the Votescam website interesting --

these two journalists had a contract for a book which was written, but when it hit

the book stores it was immediately pulled from the shelves. Just before Wategate,

these two journalists turned this computer/voting info over to the DNC offices at

the Watergate -- intending it for Larry O'Brien.



As for the GOP controlled voting computers, isn't it amazing how concerned we all are

about them -- Germany has banned them -- but the Democratic Party treats the computers

as a taboo subject! And they're on the losing end of it!!

Odd?

[annabanana]

72. yeppers.. .The repugs are acting as if they have nothing to fear, despite

being in the minority opinion on EVERY FRIGGEN ISSUE to the tune of nearly 70/30%.

That tells me that we have to gear up NOW on the vapor voting, proprietary software business.

[defendandprotect]

94. But isn't it odd or unimaginable, that we could be so concerned about GOP-controlled

voting computers, but the Democratic Party never mentions the issue?

In fact, seems to treat it as a taboo subject?

And, they're on the losing end of it???

[EstimatedProphet]

23. HEAR HEAR!

As I drive around Massachusetts, I’m amazed at the potholes and just plain crappy roads throughout the greater Boston region.

I have lived literally all over this country. I have never, ever, lived in a place with worse roads. I have also never, ever, lived in a place that had snow removal on those roads so under control. When it snows here, it is off the roads within 6 hours. I have never experienced that. I went through the President's Day blizzard of 2003 in DC, which shut the city down entirely for 3 days. We got the same amount of snow here this past winter 3 separate times, and it was off the roads by nightfall every time. The problem is, plowing really damages the roads. Those big kettle potholes are caused by plows gouging the surface. That's the price you pay for keeping the roads clear. Without some intensive roadwork during the summer months, the roads here would turn into rubble in short order. Idiot teabillies that want to cut out all the goldurn gubmint would ensure that the roads are completely useless within 5 years, just so they could get that next shiny thing at Walmart.

[ejpoeta]

25. here's the rub...

they'll bitch and moan about the potholes in the road on the way there, assuming they can get there, without even considering why it is that the roads aren't getting repaired.

[mythology]

57. I have to disgree greatly with the idea that they actually remove the snow in Boston

I lived in Colorado for 10 years, living in a semi-rural area and working in Boulder, that got in excess of two feet more per year than Boston and the roads were not only cleared faster, but the snow wasn't just left in piles on street corners. Additionally the roads, even dirt ones were in far better condition than in Boston.

I think the problem with the road is that water remains on the streets longer than in other areas. Part of this is because the snow is left covering storm drains and in big piles, thus reducing melt off, and so there's more left to freeze in tiny cracks in the road.

But part of the problem is also that the city/state allows the problem to go for a long time thus increasing not only the number but the size of the potholes.

[JonLP24]

24. K&R

I wondered where you were. Love all your threads.

:kick:

[unhappycamper]

50. Don't tell anyone Jon, but I'm working.

No shit. Five days a week. A contracting job literally fell me so I'm doing my best to plump up my ban account.

[WillyT]

27. HUGE K & R !!!

:kick:

[highplainsdem]

28. K&R

[Duval]

29. You've got a friend here!

Im' angry and disappointed and frustrated, too. With all that needs to be done to our infrastructure, makes no sense to give billions to our Military/Industrial complex. Thank you for this. It always helps to know you are not alone. I'm not giving up, yet, but at this house, we bring up moving at least three times a week.}( :argh: :hi: :dem: :grouphug: And thank Skinner et al for DU!!

[handmade34]

30. I am not tired...

I am angry, dismayed, incredulous, livid, etc...

in all my 60 years did I think we would someday be going backwards with common people supporting the regression...

I plan on doing whatever I can to fight this as long as I can...

[Deep13]

31. I know what will solve this problem: tax cuts for the rich.

:hide:

[sce56]

33. You forgot GE "We bring good things to death"

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/business/economy/25tax.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
The company reported worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, and said $5.1 billion of the total came from its operations in the United States.

Its American tax bill? None. In fact, G.E. claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion.

That may be hard to fathom for the millions of American business owners and households now preparing their own returns, but low taxes are nothing new for G.E. The company has been cutting the percentage of its American profits paid to the Internal Revenue Service for years, resulting in a far lower rate than at most multinational companies.

Its extraordinary success is based on an aggressive strategy that mixes fierce lobbying for tax breaks and innovative accounting that enables it to concentrate its profits offshore. G.E.’s giant tax department, led by a bow-tied former Treasury official named John Samuels, is often referred to as the world’s best tax law firm. Indeed, the company’s slogan “Imagination at Work” fits this department well. The team includes former officials not just from the Treasury, but also from the I.R.S. and virtually all the tax-writing committees in Congress. While General Electric is one of the most skilled at reducing its tax burden, many other companies have become better at this as well. Although the top corporate tax rate in the United States is 35 percent, one of the highest in the world, companies have been increasingly using a maze of shelters, tax credits and subsidies to pay far less.

In a regulatory filing just a week before the Japanese disaster put a spotlight on the company’s nuclear reactor business, G.E. reported that its tax burden was 7.4 percent of its American profits, about a third of the average reported by other American multinationals. Even those figures are overstated, because they include taxes that will be paid only if the company brings its overseas profits back to the United States. With those profits still offshore, G.E. is effectively getting money back. Such strategies, as well as changes in tax laws that encouraged some businesses and professionals to file as individuals, have pushed down the corporate share of the nation’s tax receipts — from 30 percent of all federal revenue in the mid-1950s to 6.6 percent in 2009.

[matt819]

34. I second that and raise you infrastructure decay

UC, I feel your pain. I think the same as I drive around MA, VT, NH, etc. Then, when you get off the main roads and drive through these small towns, you see decrepit bridges, shuttered businesses, rusted out buildings. If we took photos of these places without providing any context, you might think you were looking at photos from the third world. And before you tar and feather me, I know the third world. I lived in various third world countries for the better part of 20 years. I know abject poverty and squalor, and, no, I'm not suggesting that we are at that level. But we are also not at a level anymore where you can look with pride on all things American.

One example in one local town. There's a very short bridge over a small, and in places extremely unpleasant looking, river. This bridge is a pontoon bridge, military overstock from WWII, or maybe the Korean War. In any case, it was intended for short-term use in military theaters of operation. That's what this town installed back in the 1950s, with every intention of replacing it, from what I understand, when they could find money in the budget. It has been in use for close to 60 years. Within the past few years, since the state/city didn't have the money to replace the bridge, it was somehow reinforced and is now good to go for another number of years - another 50? Who knows?

[Enthusiast]

35. "If Jeb Bush is for Charter Schools, I am against them."

Me too.

[patrice]

36. K&R

[Hannah Bell]

37. kr

[femrap]

38. I'm tired of giving

money to the BANKSTERS. F*ck Citigroup, Chase, BofA, Goldboy Sucks and all the rest of them that we bailed out....plus Bernanke is printing money for them on a daily basis. Here, boys.....take some free money and go invest in stocks, oil and commodities.

TAX THE RICH, DAMN IT!

[SaveAmerica]

40. Well, from the POV of the wife of a soldier who did his time in Iraq

I totally, completely and 100% agree with you. They (Republicans) want to have a huge budget to spend on getting the military to the Middle East, using them like they're disposable cups, send them home and then take away money from programs that help returning vets (like combating homelessness, etc). We need to end the wars and have just enough money in our defense budget to defend the nation.

So we all seem to agree that the wars are a negative for this country (understatement of the year) in many ways. I've seen the call for the wars to be ended and troops brought home several times but what can be done to make it happen? We just saw Kucinich and Freedom Fry try to get a bill passed to shut down operations in Afghanistan and turn this ship around now and they didn't get anywhere with that. Why is is so hard to do when so many know how wrong it is? I think that the Republican Party has been so good at painting the patriotic picture in regards to these wars that we are fighting the "You're unamerican if you don't support the troops and these wars" theme. That's all I can come up with to defend the dems who don't speak up against them.

What the Democratic Party needs to do is to raise a collective hand and say STOP; being in a war does not make you All-American. Supporting the troops means more than keeping a steady supply of goody boxes going to Iraq and Afghanistan, it means doing what's right for these guys with our votes and our voices.

Obama might have decided to keep them in Afghanistan until '14 but we can turn this around if we do it together with a clean well-thought out plan and Congressmen and Women who really do care bout this country, its military and its future.

I'm tired too, I'm worn out and would love to turn the clock back to 2000. I'm hoping for all this emotional weakness of mine to lift soon so I can do the research to try to make that plan that would turn this around. Or find the groups who are already doing it and join them.

[Sherman A1]

K&R Well Said

and I completely agree!:toast:

[Sherman A1]

43. K&R Well Said

and I completely agree!:toast:

[RyanPsych]

44. Lets cut the Cold-War

style military. Seriously...who are we going to fight with all those ships and planes? Al Queda? When did they get a navy? The USSR no longer exists, and neither does the Cold War. Let's get rid of all its relics, both in the military and in the congress

[Tatiana]

45. Another tired American checking in. Wish I could rec this a thousand times. n/t

[Lifelong Protester]

46. To sum up for my 2 cents worth:

1. End the wars
2. Cut the military budget, but make damn sure we keep our comittment to the vets
3. TAX THE RICH
4. IF CORPORATIONS WANT TO BE "PEOPLE", LET THEM PAY TAXES!

[bobbolink]

47. I rec'd.... would appreciate if you all could also PROTEST for low-income housing, food stamps, etc

along with your protests for middlclass concerns.

Could you include US, please?

[tpsbmam]

49. Absofrigginlutely! I'll add I'm beyond fed up with their willingness and complicity

when it comes to throwing people who are destitute, people who are one step up and one lost paycheck away from completely destitute, disabled, middle class, and pretty much everyone who isn't filthy rich or big-time corporate under the damn bus. You definitely implied it -- I'm fucking putting it in B&W.

As an aside not as important as the above but hand-in-hand with it, I'm damn well furious with being not just ignored and dismissed by the "Big Guy," but being so thoroughly and totally disrespected by his administration and by the Big Guy himself.

:grr:

[unapatriciated]

51. I'm exhausted but can't rest.

The future for my grandchildren is very bleak.
End the wars and cut the military budget.
Tax the top 1% a realistic amount.
We will have enough money to get our country back on track.

[MrMickeysMom]

52. Effen A... and KNR

I'm pretty sick of listening to these tea baggers, too.

If their willingness to read a history book matched their ability to attend to the cameras, they'd all have caught up by now with the history that keeps repeating itself... while raping and pillaging everything we have left on earth!

[bvar22]

74. Its NOT their fault.

Its NOT the "TeaBagger's" fault we are in such bad shape.
This was ALL a done deal before there was such a thing as a "Teabagger".

I actually give them points for realizing Something is BAD Wrong, and having the sense to Start Screaming.
Now all we have to do is point them in the right direction.

[MrMickeysMom]

77. That was exactly my point...

I know the difference between what happened over and over through history, and thinking it the fault of those "angered" over what has happened again. They still express it while being grossly misinformed.

All their waisted energy could have been put to use... Anger is justified, but you have to understand history better for (their) direct to actually mean something.

[Taverner]

53. You had me at potholes...

[Initech]

54. They also need to close corporate tax loopholes!!! (*COUGH* GE)

[Moostache]

55. YES, YES, A THOUSAND TIMES YES!!!

I got your back when the shit hits the fan brother...
I'm sick and tired of ALL OF THAT and more!!!

Preach on and scream it from the mountain tops...REAL Change is coming to America, not some warmed over bullshit political rhetoric...and Obama needs to drop the pretentious "winning the future" shit right now....hey Barrack, how about winning the fucking PRESENT first? And while you're at it, at least a couple of fulfilled campaign pledges would be nice too!

[Danger Mouse]

58. Damn straight.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

59. Awwww Puddin'

Bone Tired, and weary. And if anyone has done action to work to highlight the wrongs to obtain the justice-
It's you!

John and I are to the point where we have almost fully decided no more action- just piss them off
by getting off the grid and growing our own food.

Love you man!
Stay strong.

[BlueIris]

60. Now, now. Democratic Underground supports Democrats. Hush up. nt

[deaniac21]

61. Isn't $243,000 less than $86 million?

[bluedigger]

62. Me, too, and not in the good Lilly von Shtupp way....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pmpgrYQgs

[Guilded Lilly]

63. I've been your kind of tired or months...thanks for

putting my emotional exhaustion into words.

[MissDeeds]

65. Agreed

K&R

[nahant]

68. In no way should you fuck with Veterans benefits!

These men and women served our country and as a group they have been screwed, Blued and Tattooed. The VA should have it's own funding stream.. How quickly people want to just throw the Vets onto the junk heap of history.. You sound just like the republicans who only want to use these Patriots and when they have served dump them... They have already instituted a "Means Test" so that if you make 14K a year you have to pay for all your medications WTF is that? Oh yeah that was Dear GWB and the Republican party did in 2002... Do a little research and you will find that most homeless are Vets...
Don't diss our VETS!!

[freshwest]

69. Thanks a million, this is it.

[janet118]

70. Do your own deficit cutting . . .

From New York Times:

Interactive Deficit Reduction

[deutsey]

71. Kick and highly recommended n/t

[Soylent Brice]

75. K&R

[MichiganVote]

76. K&R

[bertman]

78. YES!! YES!! Hell fucking YES!! REC. nt

[cascadiance]

79. And I am FRICKIN TIRED as an unemployed person paying MORE taxes than 2/3rds of our companies...

... do COLLECTIVELY!

We need to make some t-shirts to that effect. Something like...

Why do I myself pay more income taxes than all of these companies TOGETHER, and have a long list of them!

http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/12/news/economy/corporate_taxes/

[Anakin Skywalker]

80. "Charter School" is just code word for religious school.

[Major Hogwash]

81. Yeah, I have to agree, a lot of other priorities can wait, your list should be first,

Or at least part of the list.

I can't believe we are talking about this . . still.
10 fucking years later, and they still act like there is no bottom of the barrel for new equipment.

How many terrorists do you think that $5 Billion dollar destroyer is going to catch?
And the Osprey is a nightmare. That won't end.

[iwishiwas]

82. REC.

[ScreamingMeemie]

86. But, over California.. .New Jersey...etal.. .MICHIGAN ...tough shit!

And only now people care...because it's happening to their state. :(

[joentokyo]

87. You tell 'em; I'm so mad I can't talk!

[unhappycamper]

88. Sorry about the incorrect number on the F-35 - it's $243 million dollars, not $243 grand. n/t

[Octafish]

89. I'm tired, too.

Seeing how we owe them our freedom and all, and I'm related to more than a few of them, I love men and women of the United States Armed Forces. The thing is, there are other important parts that contribute to national security -- from good infrastructure to good schools to a sound economy that have been neglected by the connected crony class who think they own everything and everyone.

[shanti2]

91. Never drive the speed limit on 128

during the winter and early spring!  I learned that many years
ago...once the ground warms and the pot holes get filled in,
then it is another story.  I totally agree with the cuts to
the Defense Budget!  When I was in the Army in the 70's when
it was almost time for the new budget we would be told how
much money was left in our unit's budget and to spend it fast
because if not then the amount would be cut the next budget.
There ws no saving for the next fiscal year.

[JohnnyM]

92. Where's the money

When Obama drove us farther in to debt by borrowing money from China for his "stimulus", the program was supposed to include money for the "Infrastucture"... ie road repair... remember the "Shovel Ready" jobs. Maybe we should ask him why there are pot holes in Massachusetts.