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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 07:54 AM
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West strikes Libya forces, NATO sees 90-day campaign
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/25/idINIndia-55841020110325

(Reuters) - Western warplanes bombed Muammar Gaddafi's tanks and artillery in eastern Libya on Friday to try to break a battlefield stalemate and help rebels take the strategic town of Ajdabiyah. ...

What happened to "days, not weeks" ?

As a side note: Seems like the rebels are not interested in a cease fire. The battle for Tripolis will be "interesting".
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:02 AM
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1. I think they thought that Daffy's military would turn against him rather than battle the UN forces.
It looks like that's not happening.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:03 AM
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2. It's just started. Kaddafy's military might fold quickly if they get
pounded.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:01 AM
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6. I vote to pound the shit out of them, day and night.
The alternative is to leave a human monster in power.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:06 AM
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3. Um, do the rebels get any say in this?
At what point can they say, "Thanks guys, we'll take it from here"?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:59 AM
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4. They published a letter in Le Figaro saying just that and recognizing France for her preeminent role
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 10:17 AM by Catherina
Translation mine.

Free Libya recognizes the preeminent role of France
What was the very first act of the head of the Free Libya government, Friday morning? To address a letter to the French people and the President of the French Repbulic learned JDD. This letter, with a Churchillian tone, was transmitted to France, once again by the intermediary of French writer Bernard-Henry Levy. It expressed the recognition, by the Libyan insurgents, of France's preeminent role in the anti-Gaddafi coalition. It will be published in the Figaro tomorrow morning.

La Libye libre reconnaît le rôle prééminent de la France
Quel aura été le tout premier acte du chef du gouvernement de la Libye libre, Mahmoud Jebril, intronisé ce vendredi matin? Adresser une lettre au peuple francais et au Président de la République française, apprend le JDD. Cette lettre, au ton churchillien, est parvenue en France par l'intermédiaire, une fois de plus, de l'écrivain Bernard-Henri Lévy. Elle vaut reconnaissance, par les insurgés libyens, du rôle prééminent de la France dans la coalition anti-Kadhafi. Elle sera publiée dans Le Figaro de demain matin.

http://www.lejdd.fr/International/Depeches/La-Libye-libre-reconnait-le-role-preeminent-de-la-France-289347/


10:22
The Libyan people see in you liberators. Her gratitude to you will be eternal.
Libya: The Opposition Thanks France
The head of the National Transition Council, (NTC, Libyan opposition), wrote to President Nicolas Sarkozy to thank him for his acts, calling the French soldiers liberators, but reaffirming that it doesn't want "foreign forces" on Libyan soil. "Your planes, overnight, destroyed the tanks that were getting ready to martyr Benghazi and enter a defenseless city (...). The Libyan people see in you liberators. Her gratitude to you will be eternal", wrote Mahmoud Jibril, President of the NTC, in a letter published by the Figaro.

10h22
Le peuple libyen voit en vous des libérateurs. Sa reconnaissance envers vous sera éternelle"
Libye: l'opposition remercie la France
Le dirigeant du Conseil national de transition (CNT, opposition libyenne), a écrit au président Nicolas Sarkozy pour le remercier de son action, qualifiant les soldats français de "libérateurs", mais réaffirmant ne pas vouloir de "forces extérieures" sur le sol libyen. "Vos avions, en pleine nuit, ont détruit les chars qui s'apprêtaient à martyriser Benghazi et à entrer dans la ville sans défense (...). Le peuple libyen voit en vous des libérateurs. Sa reconnaissance envers vous sera éternelle", a écrit Mahmoud Jibril, président du CNT, dans une lettre publiée samedi dans Le Figaro.

http://lci.tf1.fr/filnews/monde/libye-l-opposition-remercie-la-france-6330447.html


Here is the letter itself

Free Libya thanks France, Sarkozy and Cameron

Dear Bernard-Henri Lévy,
Allow me once again to use you, who first had us approach President Sarkozy, as an intermediary to pass on the following message.

Mr President,
Your planes, overnight, destroyed the tanks that were getting to martyr Benghazi and enter a defenseless city. May your pilots be thanked for that. As said Winston Churchill in 1940, about Ehglish pilots: "rarely have so many men owed so much to so few men".

Since then, the strikes by the coalition have paraylized the tyrant even if he holds coastal cities where he barricaded himself and where, due to lack of means, we can't yet dislodge him. May the British, American, European forces, may the Qatari and Kuwaiti forces, and may the French forces again, be thanked for that that too.
The Libyan people see you as liberators. Her gratefulness to you will be eternal.

I would like to add this, dear President Sarkozy, for your personal attention and that of the French people also. The Libyan people but also the people of friendly neighboring countries, beginning with our Tunisian and Egyptian brothers, see in the help you have us, a big gesture towards the Arab world. This help for the Arab Spring, this decisive support for the aspirations of the populations in our region for liberty and human rights, it's in Libya that it's manifesting itself today: but we know that it goes beyond our borders and addresses itself beyond our struggle, to all our brothers.

For now, our struggle for liberation continues. Certainly, our forces must organize. Our command structures need to be more efficient. But remember, Mister President, that our army didn't exist 4 weeks ago. All our men are ready to fight. We don't doubt their bravery. We don't want foreign foreign forces. We won't be needing them.

We will, thank to you, win the first battle. We'll win on our own, the next battle. Our liberation is for tomorrow. We just need a little time. We know we can count on you until our country is completely liberated and the tyrant Gaddafi falls.
Thank you France.
Long live Free Libya.
Mahmoud Jibril

La Libye libre remercie la France, Sarkozy et Cameron

Cher Bernard-Henri Lévy,
Permettez que, une fois encore, je passe par vous – vous qui nous avez fait, le premier, approcher le président Sarkozy - pour lui délivrer le message suivant.
« Monsieur le Président.
Vos avions, en pleine nuit, ont détruit les chars qui s’apprêtaient à martyriser Benghazi et à entrer dans la ville sans défense. Que vos aviateurs en soient remerciés. Comme l’a dit Winston Churchill, en 1940, à propos des aviateurs anglais: « rarement autant d’hommes auront dû autant à si peu d’hommes ».
Depuis, les frappes de la coalition ont paralysé le dispositif du tyran, même s’il tient les villes de la côte où il s’est barricadé et d’où, faute de moyens, nous ne pouvons pas encore le déloger. Que les forces britanniques, américaines, européennes, que les forces du Quatar et du Koweit, que les forces françaises encore, soient remerciées de cela aussi. Le peuple libyen voit en vous des libérateurs. Sa reconnaissance envers vous tous sera éternelle.
Je voudrais ajouter, cher Président Sarkozy, à votre attention personnelle et à celle du peuple français, ceci. Le peuple libyen mais aussi les peuples amis voisins, à commencer par nos frères tunisiens et égyptiens, voient dans le secours que vous nous apportez un grand geste à l’égard du monde arabe. Ce secours au Printemps arabe, ce soutien décisif à l’aspiration des populations de notre région aux libertés et aux droits humains, c’est en Libye qu’il se manifeste aujourd’hui: mais nous savons qu’il dépasse nos frontières et s’adresse, par delà notre lutte, à tous nos frères.
Pour l’heure, notre lutte de libération continue. Certes, nos forces doivent s’organiser. Nos structures de commandement doivent être plus efficientes. Mais souvenez-vous, Monsieur le Président, que notre armée n’existait pas il y a encore quatre semaines. Nous avons tous les hommes prêts à combattre. Nous ne doutons pas de leur vaillance. Nous ne voulons pas de forces extérieures. Nous n’en aurons pas besoin.
Nous allons, grâce à vous, gagner la première bataille. Nous gagnerons, par nos propres moyens, la bataille suivante. Notre libération est pour demain. Il nous faut seulement un peu de temps. Nous savons que nous pouvons compter sur vous jusqu’à la libération complète du pays et la chute du tyran Kadhafi.
Merci la France. Vive la Libye libre.
Mahmoud Jebril »
http://laregledujeu.org/2011/03/25/5232/la-libye-libre-remercie-la-france-sarkozy-et-cameron/
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:34 AM
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8. Then the coalition should respect their wishes
The coalition has made it's point - it can easily stop a major attack of military force against civilians.

Now back off and let the rebels have their OWN victory.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:48 AM
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9. It's going to be interesting to watch n/t
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:51 AM
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10. They are well on their way, welcomed in cities that were previously seiged by Gaddafi.
And now liberated thanks to France and the UK.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:00 AM
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5. No they're not. They never were. Rec'd. n/t
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ctsnowman Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 10:02 AM
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7. Maybe they meant dog days?
Just another war.
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