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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 01:25 PM
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I found this incredibly nasty long post about Elizabeth Taylor on the eXiled front page
eXiled are the people who have done so much Koch-outing work.
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This one is titled: Ding, Dong, Elizabeth Taylor’s Dead

Written by Eileen Jones, here are the 1st 4 paragraphs:

So, Elizabeth Taylor’s dead, you might’ve heard! They planted her yesterday. Thank God that’s over.

There are a lot of tributes out there, praising her to the skies. What a fabulous broad, the Last Great Star, and all that guff. It takes a tremendous amount of willful forgetting to consider Elizabeth Taylor “fabulous” any time after 1966. Forty-odd years of aging Liz Taylor looking as purple and swollen as an overripe plum, with a face ever meaner and more imperious, doing terrible films, then terrible TV, wearing hideous bedazzled clothing, hung with rocklike jewels, dating George Hamilton, befriending Michael Jackson, carting around an unhousebroken Maltese dog named Sugar that reportedly shat everywhere, granting endless interviews with slavish interlocutors who’d ask her variations on the question, “What is it that makes you so eternally wonderful?”

She was always happy to answer that one in detail.


Okay, sure, AIDS activism in the ’80s, before it was popular among celebrities, we’ll give her that. But otherwise she was ghastly embarrassing, like so many once-big film stars who won’t go away.


That is her sole reference to AIDS throughout the long post, the remainder of which can be read at the link.

I was royally pissed when I read it. I actually wasted my time reading the whole thing to see if it got better -- it didn't. And before I commented, 100% of the comments were similarly disparaging her. I had to comment -- this was mine:

I found you guys just yesterday by clicking a link that led to one of your Koch posts. I read a few of your posts and thought you'd be a great Koch resource, bookmarking the site as such. I was a little put off by your use of "retarded" as a slur, but not enough to write the site off.

I am clearly in the minority here when it comes to your Liz Taylor post. I find it vapid, puerile, shallow, unnecessarily hateful and frankly, just plain stupid.

I lived in worked in New York City in the 80's. I had many, many GLBT friends. And I had many GLBT friends who suffered the horrors of AIDS back then. Not only was it a death sentence with no hope of treatment of any kind, my friends were stigmatized and spurned not just by the rest of the population, but often by their own families and sometimes healthy GLBT.

The mysteries surrounding AIDS and the ways that AIDS was spread abounded. The fact that it was known as a "gay plague" made it easy for people prone to fear based on nothing but "I heard that..." information. I had friends whose families were somewhat accepting before outright refuse to be in their presence after they tested positive for HIV.

Elizabeth Taylor played a pivotal part in educating not just the US, the world, about AIDS. She had a pivotal role in removing the stigma associated with AIDS. What you so glibly brush off in one sentence was a 30+ year devotion to AIDS education, funding research, service provision, and more. As her AmFAR tribute noted, when she got involved "she didn't just help, she changed the landscape forever."

How many here who are joining in to disparage Elizabeth Taylor will be able to claim the same on your deathbed?


Just throwing it out there in case anyone feels the urge to stand up for this landscape-altering hero!


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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 01:29 PM
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1. I can imagine if Elizabeth Taylor had read that, her first response would be
"Piss off!"

No one got the better of her.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 01:34 PM
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2. So very true! nt
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 01:35 PM
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3. Considering the lovely memorial Debbie Reynolds
gave her on the Lawrence O'Donnell show, and Debbie would have an axe to grind considering Liz stole her husband, I would say that Eileen Johnson must be a pretty unhappy person and probably didn't even know Taylor personally.
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jpbollma Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 01:37 PM
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5. trashing the dead
is classless. No matter who it is. Take it up with the living who can defend themselves.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:09 PM
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14. welcome to DU
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 05:10 PM by niyad
there are certain people who, upon decease, will still receive no accolades from me.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 01:58 PM
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8. Debbie may have realized that she was better off
without that husband. She has also spoken about how naive she was in those days.

It is nice that she has had enough years, and that she is grounded enough to forgive.

It is classless to write something like that about Liz. If she wants to say those things, if that is how she feels, she should say those things at home, in private. Writing them, so close to Taylor's death is nasty, and reflects on her, not Liz.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:38 PM
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15. I think everyone in that situation, years later, realized it was relationship borne out of grief...
He was her husband's friend and when he died, I think they both were drawn to each other for comfort. Debbie Reynolds is a classy broad herself and from what I understand, she and Liz came to be good friends. Liz may have lost her looks later in life, but she was always a beautiful soul, which always shone through. Anyone who knew anything about her still thought she was beautiful. And she was. The world got a little less beautiful when she passed away.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:08 PM
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11. Thanks for mentioning it! I only catch his show a couple of nights a week and
missed it. I'll go watch it.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:19 PM
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12. She mentioned how everybody who knew her loved her
..."including my husband"... but she laughed and went on to say that, "She was a great girl."
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 01:36 PM
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4. A bitter little hit piece by someone with too much time on her hands.
:shrug:

Eileen Jones needs a hobby.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 01:45 PM
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6. K&R n/t
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 01:48 PM
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7. ". . . incredibly nasty . . "
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 01:50 PM by some guy
so you thought you'd share? :eyes:

you thought it would make this place look incredibly nasty as well? :wtf:

Have you ever considered that you might be part of the problem?
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:02 PM
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9. eXiled....
...is a very mixed bag.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 02:06 PM
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10. So I discovered. nt
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 03:58 PM
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13. I would have directed that poster to ...
the quote from my sig line:

"I have no enemies and no hatred. Hatred can rot away at a person's intelligence and conscience." — Liu Xiaobo, 2010 Nobel Peace Prize recipient

The ugly and disparaging--and frankly, unnecessary-- remarks about Elizabeth Taylor only diminished the poster, not Elizabeth Taylor, whose efforts to "change the landscape" for AIDS was truly a brave and remarkable contribution to society ... a contribution she left on this earth even after her departure.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 05:56 PM
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16. Duh. You thought the exile would have a fond obituary?
They don't like rich people, and they don't like celebrities. They rarely like anyone, except for the occasional writer and prostitute.
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