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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:06 PM
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We're seeing a legislative blitz by Republican politicians who might be happy to hit and run
There have been some other topics here speculating on why we're seeing so much right-wing state legislation introduced at once, even though it's provoking a backlash, with approval ratings for these governors dropping and some state legislators facing recalls within months.

In some ways, it looks like a political kamikaze mission. Rachel Maddow was commenting the other night on how politically stupid these bills seem, when they're so unpopular with voters.

But she's assuming -- many of us are assuming -- that these politicians are seriously interested in re-election.

I'm not so sure they are.

As has been posted in other topics here, both Ohio's John Kasich and Florida's Rick Scott stand to make a lot of money from "reforms" they're pushing.

Others, like Wisconsin's Scott Walker, probably think that no matter how much trouble they get into in their own state, they'll have a better shot at national office as they get national publicity for legislation that appeals to the GOP's right-wing base, who'll be more likely to applaud "budget reforms" when they don't personally know anyone hurt by them.

So I really don't think those governors care all that much about a backlash from the voters who elected them and now have buyer's remorse.

State legislators are probably more nervous, but many of them are also likely to profit directly or indirectly from these "reforms" that steal from the poor and middle class (or the entire state and its future citizens, when the plans are something like Ohio's plan to open state parks to fracking), in order to give to the rich and corporations. And those legislators who are most worried can probably be bullied into line by the governor and legislative and party officials.

So they're trying to pass as much of this legislation as they can, all at once.

This will also allow a bit more time for the backlash to subside before the next election, if it does subside. I suspect that's one way those who are planning to hit (and loot) and run are reassuring those who'd like to get re-elected.

The media won't be all that likely to revisit old stories, after all.

And if legislators in different states tackle all these bills at once, the media can't cover them as well. Especially the national media, from which many people get most of their news, now that fewer read newspapers.

The media should become more aware of just what's going on and how widespread this is. But look how long it's taken the media to notice how much ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council, has to do with the introduction of all these right-wing cookie-cutter bills.

Means, motive and opportunity. The GOP has all three right now, in the states they control.

And the perps getting the most attention probably don't plan to stick around after these legislative crimes.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:09 PM
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1. you also have to consider that the media may well be complicit
Do we know the entire membership list of Alec? GE owns MSNBC -- I doubt people making money from GE would be kept out of plans to shock doctrine this country.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:10 PM
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2. They're "cashing in"
There was a post here on DU about a week ago that likened the recent spate of anti-union/anti-middle class legislation to the behavior of day traders in the stock market who push the price of the stock up as far as it will go and then sell, sell, sell to cash in on their profits.

I wish I could find the post..it was excellent...

and yes, part of "cashing in" is not being concerned about re-election.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:16 PM
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4. Just as most wealthy and corporate elite are cashing in - they know the ship is sinking...
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 02:16 PM by polichick
...and they're taking what they can.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:14 PM
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3. Just say no! ...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:16 PM
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5. the ''hit and run'' analogy is apt, but worse, Democrats are the slowest fucking cops in human
history.

Republicans will do the damage in a flash, but Democrats will take their fucking time to fix it.

I know because community college instructors were screwed in California back in the 60s when they set up a two track system with most of us forced into part time jobs that paid far less per class even though we were required to have the same qualifications as our full time peers (a classic union busting tactic).

Despite nearly constant Democratic majorities in the state legislature, only the most barely perceptible, incremental attempts have been made to fix it.

The same will happen with all these GOP crank bills. They will be passed, Democrats will sweep the GOP out of office and then--not quite get around to undoing the damage, or not undo it COMPLETELY...

Because too many of them belong to the same business interests or would like to.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:17 PM
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6. I think Democrats should do the same.
A coordinated effort by Democrats to get real health care reform, and long-term tax increases on the super rich, as well as a serious energy policy, knowing that those same rich people will assure no re-election for them, is just the medicine we need. Politicians are SUPPOSED to serve on a short term basis, anyway.
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QED Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:23 PM
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7. The GOP doesn't know how to govern.
They'll pass these draconian laws, be tossed out in the next election cycle, then, when many of their actions take effect, the Dems will be in office and will get the blame. Think about how their tax cuts drained state treasuries and GWB's wars siphoned off Clinton's surplus. When the Dems took control in 2008, it looked grim so that leaves the Dems with facing a tax increase to pay for GWB's folly. Then the cry goes up "Tax and Spend liberals" when the real problem was "Spend money we don't have GOP."

Nope - the GOP is a political machine and nothing more. ALEC gave them something to do but they are just so obvious about it. They have over played this but the 2012 election is a long way away and I fear people might forget. Then again, by then some of the GOP's legislation will take effect and it won't be pretty or avoidable.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:51 PM
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10. it happened in california
now we are living with the consequences :(
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 09:08 PM
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18. They always create a mess for Democrats to clean up.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 08:42 AM
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23. Get a clue. Republicans have never wanted to "govern."
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kudzu22 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:32 PM
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8. Obama once said during the campaign that'd he'd rather be a great one-term president
than a mediocre two-term president. My response to that was, "why wouldn't the people reelect a great president?" The answer, of course, is that making a lot of big changes is going to make a lot of people angry. I think these GOP governors took a lesson from that and are making big changes that will permanently change the system, and don't care about reelection. The kamikaze analogy is a good one. It's what I thought Obama was going to be, but apparently he chickened out at the last minute.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:48 PM
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9. This whole taking over our country has been in the works for a long
time...having a majority in the supreme court which will side with the repugs..the corporations can spend all the money to get these people elected and even if they don't get elected they have done their job and don't need to re-elected..they will get their jobs from the koch bothers and other corporations...the media will hire them so what do they care about re-election..
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 03:10 PM
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11. You are 100% right. Look at Palin...two year governor raking in millions
they have all been offered a deal with the devil, i have no doubt!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 03:47 PM
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12. ever rightward, one step at a time. a few setbacks then more pushing. ever rightward nt
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 03:55 PM
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13. Yes, this is a "Banzai Run".
They will try to do as much damage as they can, while they can, without any real hope for re-election beforehand.


All pre-paid by their billionaire benefactors, of course.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:05 PM
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14. Then they will get high-paying, do-nothing jobs
from people like the Koch brothers. They may run for office with other teabaggers. Either way, they know they are set for life.

Oh, and people like the Koch brothers may be able to buy up public utilities, hospitals, etc. Even if we run them off, these parasites see this as a win-win.
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Populist_Prole Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:30 PM
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15. I think your take is exactly correct on this
It really is, at its core, just gaming the system. Really, if you ever corner one of them and get truth serum induced candor, they'd probably say they're just "looking out for number one" or whatever and tell you that everybody does, and should, and that the only reason we're complaining is that they just do it better than you.

I guess I could have shortened my post by just calling them sociopaths though..............

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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:37 AM
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20. Thanks! And I agree that their actions show self-interest taken to a sociopathic level.
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:42 PM
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16. I call it Seagull Politics...
Fly in, make a lot of noise, shit on everything, fly back out.
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Populist_Prole Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 05:26 PM
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17. Good one! I gotta remember that.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 10:23 PM
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19. Great name for it!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 08:39 AM
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21. Certainly makes a lot of sense with Rick Scott.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 08:41 AM
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22. They aren't "politicians"; they are THIEVES.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 09:16 AM
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24. I see it as a coup. A slow and steady coup that began under bush. n/t
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 09:22 AM
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25. Sarah resigned and still earned martyr status with the tea party/authoritarian types.
Think of the dollars per speech these people could command after they were "run out of office".

It is often just performance to enhance a career.
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