If we still have THREE wars going in 2012, will YOU vote to renominate the president?

[Ken Burch]

(Note:this is about renomination, not what happens in the fall...ok?)

[doc03]

1. It depends? Will someone else run? n/t

[Ken Burch]

3. Well, obviously, if no one else runs in the primaries the question is moot

n/t.

[Skink]

2. Let Romney end the wars.

I of course live in a state where it don't matter anyway.

[Ken Burch]

5. Actually, his dad would probably have got us out of Vietnam a lot sooner than Nixon did

That's why he was smeared with the out-of-context quote about "brainwashing", I suspect.

George Romney was one of the last of the liberal Republicans. His ideas didn't pass on to his son.

And again, I was talking about the primaries, not the fall.

[Common Sense Party]

31. Actually his ideas DID pass on to his son, who behaved quite liberally

when he was the gov of Mass. But now that he wants to be given the Repuke coronation, he pretends to be to the right of Palin and Reagan.

[Ken Burch]

32. Then again, Spiro Agnew was considered a liberal Republican when he was governor of Maryland

n/t.

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[doc03]

7. You will support Ron Paul

:hi:

[phleshdef]

6. Considering that theres only ONE war right now, I'm not too worried about it.

No, we are no longer at war in Iraq. So don't bother me with "blah blah troops are still there" blah blah, its not even close to being a real war as it once was.

No, we are not at war in Libya. At no time in the past has participating in a "no fly zone" ever qualified as having been at war. It wasn't when it was Iraq prior to the 2003 war started there and it wasn't any of the other bazillion times we've done so.

We are in ONE war and its in Afghanistan and the sooner its over the better. But if its not over in 2012, I'll still be voting for Barack Obama either way.

[Ken Burch]

8. If we're not at war in Iraq, the troops should be brought home

As long as they are there, it's easy to get a war started again.

And bombing a country is, for all practical purposes, war.

[leftstreet]

9. Actually there are none. These are occupations, not wars n/t

[Ken Burch]

13. At least nobody's calling 'em "police actions"

Which would set up the old joke "If it's a 'police action' why don't they send in the cops?"

:eyes:

[Proud Liberal Dem]

16. +1

for truth and logic

Aren't we supposed to be starting to withdraw in Afghanistan this summer? I know it's not scheduled to be fully completed until 2014(?) but it's still better than the Bush/McCain/Republican doctrine of indefinite occupation/engagement IMHO.

Of course, some people will perpetually refuse to acknowledge any differences between Obama and Bush/McCain........

[polichick]

10. I'd rather have another choice in the Dem primary - someone who's not afraid...

...to stand up for the people against the corporate takeover.

So far, nobody is going up against the machine.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

11. Amazed at those who will support Ron Paul, the bigot. Well...

...perhaps I shouldn't be surprised at all, on second thought. :puke::puke:

[Ken Burch]

12. There was only one in this thread.

n/t.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

14. There have been many on DU over the years. A larger number than I realized. n/t

[Ken Burch]

27. I think they were just giving their support to Paul's antiwar stance

Let's face it, the guy's never going to be the GOP nominee anyway.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

28. He definitely wouldn't if he'd leave the Republican Party. He loses credibility with me

by remaining a Republican. The guy is reelected every two years by overwhelming support. Being a Republican didn't matter and didn't get him elected. The fact that he continues to align himself with the party says more about him that his supporters are willing to admit.

And the fact that the guy is a racist is just disgusting for ANY Democrat, especially here on DU, to be supportive of him. I find it absolutely appalling!

[Ken Burch]

30. I don't support the guy either.

And you're right, those that support him for his stand on that one issue need to take a real look at what he stands for on OTHER questions as well.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

36. Right. It's called moral relativism and that's what the wingnuts do. While I

certainly understand the stance against the war, dismissing Paul's other immoral--and unconstitutional positions--on a host of issues, economic and social, is just unacceptable.

[Liberalynn]

15. If there were a viable alternative Democratic nominee

one who stood closer to my personal definition of what it means to be a Democrat than Obama does I would give my primary vote to the challenger regardless of how many wars are going on or not going on. IMHO our current President cares far too much what the other side thinks and says about him, and not enough about the people who chose him as their nominee and President, in his first election. I still understand and respect other Dems who feel differently.


Even though you qualified "not what happens in the fall," I just want to clarify something regarding myself. If Obama ends up staying the Dem nominee I would vote for him in the general election. I don't believe in cutting off my nose to spite my face. I would vote for him because I don't vote Republican ever, and feel a duty to vote as a responsible citizen. I just am personally hoping for a viable alternative in the primary process. Realize that it is a long shot but I am still going to personally hope it happens.

[MilesColtrane]

17. Depends on who's going up against him in the Democratic Primary.

[Thunderstruck]

18. +1

[Kennah]

19. We only have two wars: Africa and Asia

:sarcasm:

[Arctic Dave]

20. Actually your statement is more truth then poetry.

To say we have stayed in the boundries of two countries isn't quite truthful.

[sarcasmo]

21. Workers Party

[fascisthunter]

22. no way

[Shagbark Hickory]

23. See what I mean?

Swing voters. They're all that matter.

[SidDithers]

24. Regardlesss, Obama will be the nominee...

Tim Kaine was right.

Sid

[Howler]

25. Whoa!!!!

Look at the poll numbers!
49 yes 50 no.
And this is Obamas base.

[TNLib]

26. Depends on who the other Primary candidate is

If he wins the primary I'll most likely vote for him in the general. But to be honest I don't think I'll cry if he loses.

[mod mom]

29. I will vote for the most progressive candidate, if that is Obama

then he will get my vote but not a dime nor will I work (I worked GOTV for months before the primary and voter protection/registration/, rallies, organizing visibility events nearly full time after the primary election. I'll find a progressive candidate (down ticket) to spend my volunteer hours working to get elected.

[Arkana]

33. Only two as far as I know, and one's near the end.

What's this third war you're talking about?

[Ken Burch]

38. What we're doing in Libya is, for all practical purposes a war

If you're bombing a country("enforcing a 'no-fly zone'")you are, in fact, at war with that country.

I don't support Qaddafi myself, but let's just admit we are at war against Libya. Might as well admit it.

[thelordofhell]

34. We're starting two more wars in 2012?

[Forkboy]

35. Probably.

[Ken Burch]

37. Obama's nominee for ambassador to Venezuela was talking openly about working for a coup

Which is sickening given that overthrowing Chavez could ONLY lead to a right-wing government taking over.