Lindsay Graham says after Gaddafi gone we need to help them economically and politically

[dkf]

To develop a civil society.

How many billions is this going to cost?

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. He and Gramps McCain can go over and buy rugs from street merchants.

like they did in Iraq.

[razorman]

2. We will simply be funnelling money to Al Qaeda.

[tabatha]

4. I doubt it.

That is a red herring.

[razorman]

16. I hope you are right. But some said that the Muslim Brotherhood was not involved

in the Egyptian revolt. Now they are running it.

[tabatha]

20. I thought the military was running it.

Do you have a link?

[razorman]

21. I'll try to find the link. What I had read was that the Egyptian military was aligning with the MB,

which surprised many, considering that the military had previously been opposed to them. I hope this is wrong, but the history of the Middle East does not hold out much hope. Terrorists like AQ and MB might not start or actually run a revolt, but may well take over once it succeeds, since they are often the best-organized groups in the area. We can hope for the best, though.

[sad sally]

24. Yeah, but I think the State Dept said these are the good al Qaedas

[tabatha]

3. They do NOT need economic help.

There are only 6 million people in the country and can earn plenty of bucks from oil.

Lindsay Graham says that because he wants to help American Companies economically - that is all. They could give a damn about Libyans.

[dkf]

5. Isn't that what we said about Iraq?

Seriously?

[tabatha]

6. No. What was said about Iraq is that

Iraqi oil would pay for the war.

You also forget something - Obama is not Bush; Gates is not Rumsfeld.

[dkf]

7. By paying for the war they thought they would pay for the reconstruction too.

Except we landed up building plants that never got started properly, and deteriorated, leaving them with less electricity than before. We never learn.

[tabatha]

10. The reason that was done, was for Bush

to make it profitable for Americans, not for Iraqis.

Iraq was a wet dream for free marketeers and libertarians, where they hoped to wipe the slate clean and implement their dream economic system.

Btw, I hated the war in Iraq, hate libertarianism philosophy.

I believe that Obama - will not try to target Gaddafi, unlike Bush, and that he will not interfere with the Libyans. They have enough brain power to do it themselves.

Please remember just because Bush did something does not meet Obama will do it; in fact he has shown that he does things differently with this exercise.

[dkf]

12. Someone mentioned that Bush had more countries involved with the Iraq invasion than we have now.

Obama got a bunch of abstentions more than anything else. How many Arab countries are flying jets against Gaddafi? One?

[tabatha]

14. Bush got them by wheeling and dealing.

Obama did not have to do that.

How many Arab countries flew jets against Iraq ?

[sabrina 1]

17. Do you know anything about Gates?

The man who betrayed Jimmy Carter and has been behind or in front of the scenes from Republican to Democratic administrations for over 30 years. We can't seem to get rid of him.

I think you need to look up Gates. Imho, he is at least as bad as Rumsfeld, and possibly much worse.

[spanone]

8. oh, lindsey just loves wars....

besides, we've secured 33 billion of kadaffyducks money

[Arctic Dave]

9. Someone has to rebuild the blown up oil infrastructure.

But we won't talk about that.

[tabatha]

15. The Libyans are completely capable of doing that.

[Arctic Dave]

18. So was Iraq but did that stop us from trying to screw them out of rebuilding contracts?

They need to nationalize the oilfields as quickly as possible and if the oil corps want to work their fields they can do it for a buck a barrel like in Iraq.

[tabatha]

19. Because Obama is not Bush.

[Arctic Dave]

22. What? Is that Turettes?

How did this become an O vs. B thing?

[Canuckistanian]

11. Funny, Charlie Wilson said the same thing about Afghanistan in the 1980s

A few million could have cemented the idea that America was Afghanistan's friend.

But no. It wasn't to be.

[IDemo]

28. I just finished watching "Charlie Wilson's War"

"We did great things and changed the world. And then we fucked up the end game" was the quote from Wilson displayed on screen at the end.

[Safetykitten]

13. Why not? Send over United Health Care.

[thelordofhell]

26. Iraq has a better health care system than America right now

[The_Casual_Observer]

23. They didn't have any money for the US.

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. I think not. If Lindsay wants to help them economically and politically,

let Lindsay open his own pockets! Enough is enough. We have needs here that trump Libya's needs.

[pacalo]

27. New contract for Halliburton, et al.