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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:16 PM
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Two words with similar impact but different meanings: Massacre and Genocide
There is a difference. They are two different words because they mean two different things.

In Libya, the word "massacre" could be considered operative.

In Libya, the word "genocide" is not.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:18 PM
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1. Link? Hahahahahahahaha.
Yeah, I did it. So bite me.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:20 PM
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2. k&r
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:46 PM
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4. I'm surprised no one is weighing in on this. Isn't "stopping genocide" one of the supposed reasons?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 09:09 PM
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5. I didn't hear the speech but there is a big difference between massacre and genocide
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 09:18 PM
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6. The word genocide occurs ONCE in the text of the speech and not in connection with Libya
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 09:55 PM
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7. Yet, even in view of that, stopping genocide is being tossed about by people defending our action in
Libya.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:12 PM
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9. Isn't stopping massacre enough? Is genocide your standard for involvement?...nt
Sid
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:14 PM
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11. Fortunately the UN's R2P includes both...
...and quite a few other things.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:15 PM
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13. Yup...
:thumbsup:

Sid
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:13 PM
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10. As well it should be, as R2P concerns BOTH massacres AND genocides.
:shrug:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:42 PM
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15. I have watched a lot of news coverage on Libya, I haven't heard anyone say we're stopping genocide
Maybe the tossers are on your side?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:15 PM
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12. R2P is the primary reason. It does not necessarily require genocide to be used.
Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 10:15 PM by joshcryer
R2P was invoked for Burma but China and Russia knocked it down because "every country persecutes its people."
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:11 PM
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8. You are correct.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:32 PM
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14. are the dead of either group any less dead? Are they any less deserving
of our concern?

I would think that these people would know the meaning of the word- and they called it genocide

http://www.genocideintervention.net/campaign/mass_atrocities_libya

".......Given credible reports of targetted violence against civilians, the newly merged Genocide Intervention Network/Save Darfur Coalition has called on the United States, United Nations, and other world leaders to embrace their responsibility to protect Libyan citizens. GI-NET/SDC is urging the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) to authorize the following actions:

1.Freezing of assets of top Libyan officials and the Qaddafi family;
2.Referral of the situation in Libya to the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court;
3.Creation of a mandatory Libya Recovery Fund into which all revenues from Libyan oil exports would be paid;
4.Establishment of a no-fly zone by willing countries, with the express aim of preventing continued operation of Libyan military aircraft if attacks against civilians continue
........."
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