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BeachBaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:30 AM Original message |
We have our own brand of genocide, right here at home. |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. But our capitalist form of hunger and homelessness is better. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. genocide has a specific meaning. You are grossly misusing the word. |
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BeachBaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Specific meaning? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. yes, like that. And I guarantee you that not one legitimate human rights expert |
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BeachBaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. "Duh"? Good grief. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. make an outlandish claim that's not rooted in any common reality |
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BeachBaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. If you don't want to read the full definition of "genocide", that's up to you. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. uh, wiki? lol. nice little primer but it really doesn't help those who are |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
30. "Deliberate and systematic" differs from "not giving a damn." |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. there is some sort of war against the poor and middle class in this country |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Call it a war on the poor and middle class |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. Genocide has nothing to do with death from natural causes or inflicted by poverty. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. actually, it's not that simple. I suppose one can argue that starvation is |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Starvation in the manner you speak of would be a type of murder, so it fits what I said fine. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. How many malnutrition deaths occur in the US annually? |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Yea. Our problems don't even come close to the scale that the 3rd world experiences. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Right, but annual malnutrition deaths in the US are in the low double digits |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. could you please post a link for that? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Starvation vs. malnutrition |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I wonder if "refusing a feeding tube in the hospital" counts among those starvation deaths. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. I think that's stretching the meaning of genocide to the |
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BeachBaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. From wiki: |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. let's parse. What national group is the middle class or poor? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. The reason is right in the definition. |
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RevStPatrick (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. It's very simple... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
13. Thank you for actually including us poor folk. That is RARE. And much appreciated. |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
18. I agree with you. MAYbe genocide is a little strong but as far as I |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Deleted sub-thread |
bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
21. K and R (nt) |
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murphyj87 (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
23. Bohnercare |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
24. OFFS |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
26. kick |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
32. This is an important issue but unrec for misuse of the term genocide. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-29-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. note the term actually used: "brand of genocide" |
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