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Wed Mar-30-11 10:55 AM
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IAEA Says "There Might Be Re-Criticality At Fukushima" |
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Remember Fukushima? IAEA SAYS `THERE MIGHT BE RE-CRITICALITY' AT FUKUSHIMA IAEA COMMENTS AT PRESS CONFERENCE IN VIENNA IAEA DIRECTOR GENERAL YUKIYA AMANO SPEAKS AT BRIEFING IN VIENNA IAEA HAS NO INFORMATION FROM TEPCO ON NEUTRON DETECTORS If indeed the reactor has gone critical again, the whole concrete dome idea may have to be promptly scrapped. http://www.zerohedge.com/article/iaea-says-there-might-be-re-criticality-fukushima
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Wed Mar-30-11 10:57 AM
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1. What's the concrete dome idea? It has to be cool before concrete is dumped on it. |
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Wed Mar-30-11 11:17 AM
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When the Chernobyl sarcophagus was constructed it was designed with a lot of large openings in it so that heat could escape. It was not even close to being airtight.
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Wed Mar-30-11 10:58 AM
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Wed Mar-30-11 10:59 AM
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3. With 4 reactors they can't monitor fully, in different states of degradation |
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it's not surprising that one could be problematic and interfere with plans for a solution.
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Wed Mar-30-11 11:16 AM
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4. The core of several of these reactors is now a Uranium / Plutonium / Steel / Concrete mix.... |
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red hot, slowly melting into the concrete pad. If Steel/Concrete acts like a moderator in any way......
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Wed Mar-30-11 11:19 AM
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6. Following form, the polite "might be" translates to "IS." |
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Some of the comments are an interesting read. *sigh*
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Wed Mar-30-11 11:20 AM
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7. Teh Nnewcuelur apologists are on vacation, apparently. nt |
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Wed Mar-30-11 11:23 AM
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Wed Mar-30-11 11:53 AM
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10. It was less fun back in the day when they were telling us how damaging solar and wind are... |
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and that only nuclear power would save us.
If you can believe it, one of the arguments was about how much water it would take to keep the mirrors at a concentrating solar facility clean. What a trade-off.
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Wed Mar-30-11 02:50 PM
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11. Oh yeah - with the picture of the squeegee. nt |
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Wed Mar-30-11 11:22 AM
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8. More interesting reading.... |
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On March 23, Dr. Ferenc Dalnoki-Veress, a Research Scientist at the Monterey Institute of International Studies saw a report by Kyodo news agency that caught his eye. It reported that Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) had observed a neutron beam about 1.5 km away from the plant. Bursts of neutrons in large quantities can only come from fission so Dalnoki-Veress, a physicist, was faced with an alarming possibility: had portions of one of Fukushima's reactors gone critical?
To nuclear workers, there are few events more fearful than a criticality accident. In such a scenario, the fissile material in a reactor core--be it enriched uranium or plutonium--undergoes a spontaneous chain reaction, releasing a flash of aurora-blue light and a surge of neutron radiation; the gamma rays, neutrons and radioactive fission products emitted during criticality are highly dangerous to humans. Criticality occurs so rapidly--within a few fractions of a second--and so unpredictably that it can suddenly kill workers without warning. There have been 60 criticality incidents worldwide since 1945. The most recent occurred in Japan in 1999, at an experimental reactor in Tokai, when a beam of neutrons killed two workers, hospitalized dozens of emergency workers and nearby residents, and forced hundreds of thousands to remain indoors for 24 hours.
Dalnoki-Veress did not see any further reference to a neutron release. But two days after the Kyodo agency report, on March 25, TEPCO made public measurements of different isotopes contributing to the extremely high measured radioactivity in the seawater used to cool reactor No 1. Again, a piece of the data jumped out at Dalnoki-Veress: the high prevalence of the chlorine-38 (CL-38) isotope. CL-38 has a half-life of 37 minutes, so would decay so rapidly as to be of little long-term safety concern. But it's very presence troubled Dalnoki-Veress. Chlorine-37 (CL-37) is part of natural chlorine that is present in seawater in the form of ordinary table salt. In order to form CL-38, however, neutrons must interact with CL-37. Dalnoki-Verress did some calculations and came to the conclusion that the only possible way this neutron interaction could have occurred was the presence of transient criticalities in pockets of melted fuel in the reactor core.
Yesterday, he published those calculation in a paper for the blog ArmsControlWonk. The paper makes clear that if a criticality accident occurred at Fukishima, it could happen again—and while such a possibility poses minimal danger to Japanese citizens outside of the 20km exclusion zone, it means the emergency workers at Fukushima are operating in even more dangerous conditions than anyone realized. "It is important for TEPCO to be aware of the possibility of transient criticalities when work is being done; otherwise workers would be in considerably greater danger," the paper concludes. "This analysis is not definitive proof but it does mean that we cannot rule out localized criticality."
.... Read more: http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2011/03/30/has-fukushimas-reactor-no-1-gone-critical/#ixzz1I6IdNQGhhttp://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2011/03/30/has-fukushimas-reactor-no-1-gone-critical/
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