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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:07 AM
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Washington may arm Al-Qaeda-linked Libyan rebels - RT (VIDEO) Kucinich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SI9_u6EKRw&feature=feedu

"When we help accelerate the chaos and in creating more chaos...we think somehow we're gonna be able to direct the outcome? It's the SAME hubris that has visited he United States in Iraq." ~ Dennis Kucinich
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:11 AM
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1. Didn't we already do that? Weeks ago, secretly.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:39 AM
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2. lol, dennis has morphed into michelle bachman
DK throwing away his career to protect ghadaffi of all people... strange times.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 01:58 PM
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11. Obama has morphed into Bush since the "Change" campaign ended.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:28 PM
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13. lol!
omg..good one! hahah.......
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:01 PM
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26. I guess you called him a Saddam Hussein supporter back when he
opposed Bush's war also??

Don't worry about Dennis' career. You just reminded me to donate to him. One of the few democrats in Congress whose principles don't change just because his party is doing what he objected to when the other party did it.

Did you accuse your fellow DUers of supporting Saddam Hussein also when they opposed Bush's war?

Go Dennis. A true Democrat.
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:48 AM
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3. Any actual proof, any, that Al-Qaeda is "linked" to the rebels?
Do you bother to dig this deep to find videos of what Gaddafi has done?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 07:44 PM
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16. No, Sir: Just 'Russia Times' Doing What It Does, Making Things Up In A Breathless Tone
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 07:56 PM
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21. The NATO officer who testified to Congress said there was
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 07:57 PM by EFerrari
an AQ element in the rebellion. It was reported by all the major outlets. Here's the AP story.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/politics/congress/2011/03/nato-commander-signs-al-qaida-libyan-rebels

I don't think AQ is the biggest problem here but the story is true.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:07 PM
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30. Before You Get In Any Deeper On This Line, Ma'am....
ww.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/03/31/getting_libyas_rebels_wrong?page=0,1
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:27 PM
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32. Oh, I read it in another posting of yours, Sir,
and agree with the author that it's not a good idea to give the public the idea that the Libyan rebels are Al Qaida. Because that's how it would be heard.

On the other hand, Dennis wasn't fabricating as he has been accused of doing in this thread.

It happens that Libya is a complicated situation and doesn't reduce well to sound bites.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:29 PM
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33. But What He Was Told, Ma'am, Is Foolishness, And He Should Know That
After all, just parroting uncritically is no way for an intelligent person to behave.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:51 AM
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4. Rw talking point. ---arming AlQeda. C'on, other countries can
arm Libya. The US does not have to do everything.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 10:52 AM
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7. As long as we don't arm Libya directly, makes it okay.
Just bump those military budgets up to Egypt, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Yemen - heck, let's throw in a couple of million to Syria, just make sure we really increase what we give to Israel - until that's the only thing America funds.
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ReturnoftheDjedi Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:57 AM
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5. this al-Qaeda claim is total horseshit.
Just another excuse used by those who either never want to use our military to help people or those who only want to use our military to take over places so money can be made there.

Too much War for Kucinich.
Not enough for the Repigs.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 10:11 AM
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6. 6 months down the road, "We could have never imagined that Al-Qaeda..."
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:39 AM
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8. Why are supporters of US intervention defensive about "arming al-Qaeda?"
If al-Qaeda was fighting on the "right side," then what's the problem here? The US didn't like the Soviet Union in 1940, but in 1941 it did, because they were fighting the Nazis. So if Gaddafi represents an overarching threat to humanity, shouldn't they put their difference with al-Qaeda aside?
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:41 AM
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9. No one is defensive; it has a lot more to do with the assumption that the rebels are Al Qaeda linked
For which there no proof.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 12:21 PM
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10. Does it matter if they were al-Qaeda?
I guess that's the relevant point. If such evidence did emerge, is it even important? There is no central military organization of the rebels. If al-Qaeda wanted to, they could join as individuals of course.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:03 PM
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12. Well Al-Qaeda is still our supposed mortal enemies donchaknow this?
Remember 9/11 and the Taliban? Remember Al-Q and all the 'evil doers' we impounded/killed? The point is it is illegal for the US to arm known terrorist orgainzations (yet we have in the past) and that is exactly what we would be doing, if we armed our supposed 'mortal enemy'.

DK is just basically trying to say he still wants to impeach Obama, without having to say it now...now it look like we might be breaking our own laws.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:04 PM
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24. He's repeating what he heard in a hearing.
It's sort of weird that a NATO commander says, yeah, there's an AQ influence among the rebels and nobody hears him but Dennis. lol
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 07:46 PM
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17. Informed People Know It is Not happening, Sir: That Is Not Being Defensive
That is calling piles of barnyard product what piles of barnyard product are....
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 07:35 PM
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14. Hey!...I recced it UP to +1.
Thank You, Dennis.
One of the very few "Democrats" left in Washington.

:patriot:


”Unlike the other candidates, I am not funded by those corporate interests.
I owe them no loyalty, and they have no influence over me or my policies.”
---Dennis Kucinich

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 07:48 PM
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19. Fixed.
;)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:55 PM
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25. OK.
Looks like I will have to settle for a kick then.
:)

Dennis Kucinich is one of the very few reasons I'm still a Democrat.
Without Dennis,
Who would stand up and tell the nation:

*that access to Health Care is a human right, NOT a marketable commodity

*that Expanding Medicare is not only possible, but cheaper.

*that "Free Trade" really hasn't been a good thing for Americans who Work for a Living

*that the Patriot Act should be repealed, not expanded

*that BBV (Black Box Voting) lacks accountability and transparency

*that War Criminals and War Profiteers should be jailed

*that the rights of citizens TRUMP the "rights" of Corporations

I hope he runs again,
not that I expect him to get elected,
but because he is one of the very few "Democrats" left who SPEAKS for traditional "Democratic" issues,
and I want that message heard during the national debate.



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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:01 PM
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23. I rec'd it invisibly just out of cussedness.
lol

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 07:39 PM
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15. This is overheated nonsense Dennis
he should know better
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 07:47 PM
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18. He Knows Better, Sir, He Is Just So Good At It He Really Cannot Help Himself
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 07:51 PM
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20. So the left is also willing to use Al Qaeda for its propaganda needs
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 08:00 PM by MedleyMisty
I used to like Kucinich. Before he revealed himself to be utterly stupid and ignorant and uninformed. And extremely gullible, falling for Gaddafi's propaganda about Al Qaeda putting drugs in the Libyan youth's Nescafe.

Isn't it funny how the left made fun of the right for years about seeing Al Qaeda everywhere and being so scared of Al Qaeda and going into war because of mythical Al Qaeda threats, but the second Al Qaeda can be used to fit the left's political agenda here at home....

I'm really learning who actually believes in truth and humanist principles and who's all rah rah for the blue team no matter what the human cost this month.

And yeah, I'll say it - I think the more likely you are to be scared by the idea of poor brown people with guns, the more likely you are to believe in the Al Qaeda propaganda. Which is why it's a right wing talking point, but privileged lefties are falling for it too.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 07:58 PM
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22. The left in this case would be NATO.
NATO: Signs of Qaeda presence in Libyan rebels

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/29/501364/main20048350.shtml
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:03 PM
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27. Uh, cognitive disconnect.
The poster was specifically referring to leftists pulling a Bush on Al Qaeda.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:05 PM
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29. I certainly believe there's a racist element to the whole thing.
Citing specific examples is against the rules and I don't have the energy to really defend this perspective.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:08 PM
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31. Of Course, Ma'am: Anything That Comes To Hand, Like Anyone Else
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:04 PM
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28. Thanks DK. Good to see not everyone in DC has lost their mind. Rec'd n/t
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 09:05 PM by Catherina
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