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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:38 PM
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Right Wing Brains Are Different (Read How)
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 02:56 PM by Mimosa
I've posted extensively on discussion boards over the years. I've noticed a phenomenon on boards dominated by older right wing males: their posting styles are noticeably more emotional and more subjective than posters on left wing boards.

On boards which trend left, the female members (especially those in their 30s through mid 50s) sometimes get emotional and impassioned. But when it comes to getting personally insulting towards people who post opposing information (they really hate information), I was perplexed by the emotionalism and subjectivity of older males. Their language, expressions and points of reference tend to identify some as 'angry white males'. Much of my life I'd heard men described as being more objective than subjective. I've learned that's not true among right wing males.

I've been posting for a couple of weeks on a board which is medium sized and hosted by Yuku is closed to public view ( but anybody can register on Yuku and post on it, if you want to look PM me for link). I am frankly stunned how much some people cherish their hatred and ignorance. Until lately I thought 'Obama derangement syndrome' was exaggerated. And with it is a subset of animosity which is directed at 'liberal' females. It doesn't take much for the self-described 'conservative' males to display anger at women posters. These types of guys aren't rich at all but they spend a lot of time defending trickle down economics and the interests of the really wealthy, which class they've no chance of ever reaching.

Anyhow, I started searching and wondered if there was any science to support my personal observations. It turned out there is!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8228192/Political-views-hard-wired-into-your-brain.html

Excerpt:

Scientists have found that people with conservative views have brains with larger amygdalas, almond shaped areas in the centre of the brain often associated with anxiety and emotions.

On the otherhand, they have a smaller anterior cingulate, an area at the front of the brain associated with courage and looking on the bright side of life.

The "exciting" correlation was found by scientists at University College London who scanned the brains of two members of parliament and a number of students.

They found that the size of the two areas of the brain directly related to the political views of the volunteers.

However as they were all adults it was hard to say whether their brains had been born that way or had developed through experience.

Prof Geraint Rees, who led the research, said: "We were very surprised to find that there was an area of the brain that we could predict political attitude.

"It is very surprising because it does suggest there is something about political attitude that is encoded in our brain structure through our experience or that there is something in our brain structure that determines or results in political attitude."

Prof Rees and his team, who carried out the research for the Today programme on BBC Radio 4, looked at the brain make up of the Labour MP Stephen Pound and Alan Duncan, the Conservative Minister of State for International Development using a scanner.

They also questioned a further 90 students, who had already been scanned for other studies, about their political views.

The results, which will be published next year, back up a study that showed that some people were born with a "Liberal Gene" that makes people more likely to seek out less conventional political views.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:45 PM
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1. Also known as the "Frightened Little Baby Phenomenom."
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:52 PM
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2. New lefty pickup line:
I'll bet your anterior cingulate is huge...
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:56 PM
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3. K&R-I'd vote for much smaller, too...nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:57 PM
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4. Longitudinal research has also confirmed that kids
who are whiny, clingy, fearful tattletales end up being conservative adults, so the different in brain structure would seem to be congenital.

I've always said I'd rather see them than be them. I'd hate to go through life like that.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:31 PM
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5. Studies in Authoritarianism
This article in conjunction with humorous, scholarly, easy-to-read, free on-line book by Bob Altemeyer's studies in Authoritarianism http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/ will bestow you with a new understanding why people think the way the do.

Truly a must read.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:59 PM
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12. More enlightenment.
If these people, the authoritarians, ever get in power we will be in for some horrors. As I wrote, they are very stirred up.

From StClone's link:

For example, take the following statement: “Once our government leaders and the authorities condemn the dangerous elements in our society, it will be the duty of every patriotic citizen to help stomp out the rot that is poisoning our country from within.” Sounds like something Hitler would say, right? Want to guess how many politicians, how many lawmakers in the United States agreed with it? Want to guess what they had in common?

Or how about a government program that persecutes political parties, or minorities, or journalists the authorities do not like, by putting them in jail, even torturing and killing them. Nobody would approve of that, right? Guess again.

Don’t think for a minute this doesn’t concern you personally. Let me ask you, as we’re passing the time here, how many ordinary people do you think an evil authority would have to order to kill you before he found someone who would, unjustly, out of sheer obedience, just because the authority said to? What sort of person is most likely to follow such an order? What kind of official is most likely to give that order, if it suited his purposes? Look at what experiments tell us, as I did.

If, on the other hand, you’re way ahead of me, and believe the extreme right-wing elements in America are poised to take it over, permanently, I think you can still get a lot from this book. The studies explain so much about these people. Yes, the research shows they are very aggressive, but why are they so hostile? Yes, experiments show they are almost totally uninfluenced by reasoning and evidence, but why are they so dogmatic? Yes, studies show the Religious Right has more than its fair share of hypocrites, from top to bottom; but why are they two-faced, and how come one face never notices the other? Yes, their leaders can give the flimsiest of excuses and even outright lies about things they’ve done wrong, but why do the rank and file believe them? What happens when authoritarian followers find the authoritarian leaders they crave and start marching together?
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Eedjee Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:44 PM
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6. Psychopaths and sociopaths
Study psycho-and socio pathology. Those people who are null-and-void of empathy/sympathy in their brain. The amygdala area, I had read a while back, was found to be completely different in them from normal people. I am convinced that those who favor a corporate state which resembles the era of Charles Dickens and the philosophy of Ayn Rand, ( they are social Darwinists ) are psychopaths and sociopaths at the very least. They get emotionally enraged at the thought of a more cooperative world. I know, that sounds clinically INSANE and suicidal, but there it is. I don't have an answer for it either.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:47 PM
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:50 PM
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8. Small sample size, and does not favor genetics vs environment one way or another
As always, much more research is needed.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:58 PM
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11. True, but it points the way for more investigation
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:53 PM
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9. I am the liberal super hero known as The Shrink
and I possess the power to shrink their oversized amygdalas!

Mwa ha ha ha ha ha.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:55 PM
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10. People that suffer from chronic constipation develop larger amygdalas over time.
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 03:58 PM by Zorra
Excess feces backs up into the digestive tract and is forced into the bloodstream, flows to the brain, and lodges in that area of the brain known as the amygdala.

Therefore, the reason that conservatives have much larger amygdalas than normal people is because they are totally full of shit.
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 04:07 PM
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13. I've spent 40 years psychoanalyzing myself...
...and trying to discover whether my Democratic life is chosen, genetic or societal. I'll be seriously pissed off if they find out it's just because I'm normal and "they" aren't.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 04:22 PM
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14. Obviously - they are closed.
:sarcasm:
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cognoscere Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 05:49 PM
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15. Right wing brains??? Since when has three pounds of rancid bullshit
been considered a brain?
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