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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 06:07 AM
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Looks like heartless and pulseless wants someone's heart
Write your living will - no war criminal gets my heart.
http://massdevice.com/news/dick-cheney-coronary-heart-disease-treatment-poster-child
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Former vice president Dick Cheney has undergone bypass surgery and external cardioversion, and been implanted with coronary stents, implantable cardioverter-defibrillators and a continuous-flow ventricular assist device. Is a heart

MASSDEVICE ON CALL — Should Dick Cheney get a new heart? Former vice president Dick Cheney may need a new heart to continue his 33-year battle with coronary heart disease treatment (he suffered the first of his four heart attacks when he was 37). Theheart.org asked several experts to weigh in on the matter, including Dr. Mandeep Mehra of the University of Maryland School of Medicine. Mehra said Cheney "would be a very deserving candidate for cardiac transplantation at this point," but Cheney's advanced age of 70 is an issue. The relatively long life of the politically powerful cardiac patient is also raising concerns about inequities in healthcare.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 06:10 AM
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1. Since when did he ever need a heart?
He certainly never had one before.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 06:15 AM
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2. He wants one now - desperately
I suspect and hope that not one will be compatible with this war criminal.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 06:22 AM
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3. Hell he never used a heart when he had one
sorry sob of a war criminal anyway. :hi:

My apologies but something about him does it to me, the sob part
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 06:23 AM
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4. Cheney can't survive an ordinary heart transplant.
His case requires the heart be harvested is a special way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBIdcUxdgo0
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 06:52 AM
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6. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahaha
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 06:33 AM
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5. I don't understand why he just doesn't buy one on the open market
Edited on Fri Apr-01-11 06:34 AM by HereSince1628
Cheney is a huge believer in the idea that the free market can solve all problems.

All he needs to do is buy a slave who has the right major histocompatibility complex, and then harvest the slave's heart. Surely his slave-labor buddies in Central Africa and Saudi Arabia could facilitate all these activities.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 06:53 AM
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7. He'll soon have one from Libya
:evilgrin:
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:08 AM
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13. I hope we all get a heart from Libya
I hope that we can all learn how to have a heart from the Libyans, who have far more heart than any Americans I know of.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 11:14 AM
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23. You think Gaddafi's heart would be compatible?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 12:25 PM
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24. Compatible? It's probably on loan from Cheney himself.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 07:03 AM
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8. That would be a waste of a heart
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:03 AM
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9. Who do I contact to put a rider on my organ donor card that my heart can't go to Cheney?
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:05 AM
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10. Let him take Kucinich's
He's not using it at the moment.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:06 AM
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11. They don't come in that small a size.
Maybe he should talk to the Grinch.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:08 AM
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12. Gee. An old guy can't adopt a couple of chihuahuas, but Sneer's in line for a new ticker.
Pays to have fiends in high places.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:09 AM
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14. "a very deserving candidate?"
I don't think so.

He's very deserving of something, for sure, but not of a new heart.

I predict that if he decides he wants a new heart, he'll jump to the head of the line and get one, pronto. :puke:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:10 AM
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15. I will rescind my organ donation status
if this war criminal is put on the list and recommend everyone that I know do the same.

Deserving candidate my ass. Sorry, I completely disagree.
His age is certainly a factor. Male life expectancy is only 75.

He has had the best medical care that our money can provide. Unless he has a directed donor, then there is no way in HELL that this man should get a heart.

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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:13 AM
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16. Yeah. If the hospital even thought about denying him, the entire place would get run into the ground
Edited on Fri Apr-01-11 09:13 AM by ck4829
So fast you wouldn't even see it happen.

His age, his condition, and the lives and jobs of everyone at that place wouldn't even factor into it.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:14 AM
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17. I thought Zombies wanted Braaaaaiiinsss.....
or maybe that's what that hunting "accident" was all about
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:25 AM
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18. Cheney has never needed a heart before.
Why should one be wasted on him now? Or ever?

He will live forever. Even Hell doesn't want him.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 10:16 AM
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19. Criminals in China are doubtless being screened to find a "donor" match
Organ transplantation in the People's Republic of China has taken place since the 1960s, and is one of the largest organ transplant programs in the world. Involuntary organ harvesting is illegal under Chinese law; though, under a 1984 regulation, it became legal to remove organs from executed criminals with the prior consent of the criminal or permission of relatives. Lately, consent is no longer required.
Here's a link to the story of harvesting organs from live prisoners - usually Falun Gong, after which of course they die.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/824qbcjr.asp?page=2

Harry Wu, a Chinese dissident who established the Laogai Foundation, had already produced reams of evidence that the state, after executing criminals formally sentenced to death, was selling their kidneys, livers, corneas, and other body parts to Chinese and foreigners, anyone who could pay the price. The practice started in the mid-1980s. By the mid-1990s, with the use of anti-tissue-rejection drugs pioneered by China, the business had progressed. Mobile organ-harvesting vans run by the armed services were routinely parked just outside the killing grounds to ensure that the military hospitals got first pick. This wasn't top secret. I spoke with a former Chinese police officer, a simple man from the countryside, who said that, as a favor to a condemned man's friend, he had popped open the back of such a van and unzipped the body bag. The corpse's chest had been picked clean.

Taiwanese doctors who arranged for patients to receive transplants on the mainland claim that there was no oversight of the system, no central Chinese database of organs and medical histories of donors, no red tape to diminish medical profits. So the real question was, at $62,000 for a fresh kidney, why would Chinese hospitals waste any body they could get their hands on?

Yet what initially drew most fire from skeptics was the claim that organs were being harvested from people before they died. For all the Falun Gong theatrics, this claim was not so outlandish either. Any medical expert knows that a recipient is far less likely to reject a live organ; and any transplant dealer will confirm that buyers will pay more for one. Until recently, high volume Chinese transplant centers openly advertised the use of live donors on their websites.

It helps that brain death is not legally recognized in China; only when the heart stops beating is the patient actually considered dead. That means doctors can shoot a prisoner in the head, as it were, surgically, then remove the organs before the heart stops beating. Or they can administer anesthesia, remove the organs, and when the operation is nearing completion introduce a heart-stopping drug--the latest method. Either way, the prisoner has been executed, and harvesting is just fun along the way. In fact, according to doctors I have spoken to recently, all well versed in current mainland practices, live-organ harvesting of death-row prisoners in the course of execution is routine.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 12:26 PM
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25. And Once Again, We Buy Cheap Chinese Imports Instead of US Made /nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 10:31 AM
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20. To actually use, or just for lunch?
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 10:34 AM
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21. awesome!
:thumbsup: :rofl:
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 11:11 AM
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22. This guy apologized for getting in his way during the hunting trip,
but he never really made adequate restitution...

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 12:35 PM
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26. That doctor must be a Republican. Let the war criminal
who took the hearts of so many innocents and because of his lies, is still doing so, get in line like everyone else. And that is being kind, because if there was any justice in this country he would be in jail.

I can't think of a less deserving candidate.
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