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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 10:51 AM
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The Secret War Against Libya
THE SECRET WAR AGAINST LIBYA

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Seizing power in Libya by ousting King Idris in a 1969 coup, Gadafi (who intriguingly had undertaken a military training course in England in 1966) quickly became the target of massive covert operations by the French, US, Israeli and British. Stephen Dorril, in his recently published book on MI6, records how in 1971 a British plan to invade the country, release political prisoners and restore the monarchy ended in a complete flop. In 1980, the head of the French secret service, Col Alain de Gaigneronde de Marolles, resigned after a French-led plan ended in disaster when a rebellion by Libyan troops in Tobruk was rapidly suppressed.

Then in 1982, away from the glare of the media, Hissene Habre, with the backing of the CIA and French troops, overthrew the Chadian government of Goukouni Wedeye. Human Rights Watch records: "Under President Reagan, the United States gave covert CIA paramilitary support to help install Habre in order, according to secretary of state Alexander Haig, to 'bloody Gadafi's nose'." Bob Woodward, in his semi-official history of the CIA reveals that the Chad covert operation was the first undertaken by the new CIA chief William Casey and that throughout the decade Libya ranked almost as high as the Soviet Union as the "bÍte noir" of the administration.

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US official records indicate that funding for the Chad-based secret war against Libya also came from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Morocco, Israel and Iraq. The Saudis, for instance, donated $7m to an opposition group, the National Front for the Salvation of Libya (also backed by French intelligence and the CIA). But a plan to assassinate Gadafi and take over the government on 8 May 1984 was crushed. In the following year, the US asked Egypt to invade Libya and overthrow Gadafi but President Mubarak refused. By the end of 1985, the Washington Post had exposed the plan after congressional leaders opposing it wrote in protest to President Reagan.

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Following the April 1986 attack, reports of US military action against Libya disappeared from the media. But away from the media glare, the CIA launched by far its most extensive effort yet to spark an anti-Gadafi coup. A secret army was recruited from among the many Libyans captured in border battles with Chad during the 1980s. And, as concern grew in MI6 over Gadafi's alleged plans to develop chemical weapons, Britain funded various opposition groups in Libya including the London-based Libyan National Movement.

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http://www.medialens.org/articles/the_articles/articles_2002/rk_secret_war.html


National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL)

    The National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL) is an opposition movement to Muammar al-Gaddafi's regime in Libya. NFSL was established on 7 October 1981 at a press conference held in Khartoum, Sudan's capital. Its original leader was Muhammad Yusuf al-Magariaf, formerly Libyan ambassador to India.<1> Currently the NFSL is led by Ibrahim Abdulaziz Sahad, a former Libyan military officer and diplomat. The most recent National Congress of the NFSL was held in the United States in July, 2007.

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    According to various sources, Saudi Arabia and the United States Central Intelligence Agency had supported the NFSL.<3><4><5><6>.

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    Having apparently given up the idea of a military takeover, the NFSL continues its opposition to Gaddafi by media campaigns and forming political alliances with other opposition groups. The NFSL was one of 7 other Libyan opposition groups that formed the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition (NCLO) which was formed in June 2005 at the 1st NCLO conference in London.

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    The NFSL has continued its media campaigns, primarily utilizing online mediums.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_for_the_Salvation_of_Libya#cite_note-1

    All the worthy democratic aspirations of the Libyan youth movement notwithstanding, the most organized opposition group happens to be the National Front for the Salvation of Libya - financed for years by the House of Saud, the CIA and French intelligence. The rebel "Interim Transitional National Council" is little else than the good ol' National Front, plus a few military defectors. This is the elite of the "innocent civilians" the "coalition" is "protecting".

    Right on cue, the "Interim Transitional National Council" has got a new finance minister, US-educated economist Ali Tarhouni. He disclosed that a bunch of Western countries gave them credit backed by Libya's sovereign fund, and the British allowed them to access $1.1 billion of Gaddafi's funds. This means the Anglo-French-American consortium - and now NATO - will only pay for the bombs. As war scams go this one is priceless; the West uses Libya's own cash to finance a bunch of opportunists Libyan rebels to fight the Libyan government. And on top of it the Americans, the Brits and the French feel the love for all that bombing. Neo-cons must be kicking themselves; why couldn't former US deputy defense secretary Paul Wolfowitz come up with something like this for Iraq 2003?

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MC30Ak01.html



National Conference for the Libyan Opposition (NCLO)

    It is clear that the ongoing violent insurrection in Libya has nothing to do with democracy, dictatorship and inequality. It has much to do with a U.S.-sponsored insurrection to topple the current Libyan Government and take control of Libyan valuable natural resources (oil and natural gas). The main group leading the insurrection is the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition which includes the National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL). The NFSL, which is leading the violence, is a U.S.-sponsored armed militia of mostly Libyan expatriates and tribes opposed to al-Qaddafi. Unlike the peaceful uprisings against U.S.-backed dictatorship regimes in Egypt, Tunisia, Bahrain, Iraq and elsewhere, the violence in Libya has been directed against government buildings and properties, including army barracks and police stations.

    http://www.countercurrents.org/hassan180311.htm


Al-Jama'a al-Islamiyyah al-Muqatilah bi-Libya (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, LIFG

    The LIFG was founded in 1995 by a group of mujahideen veterans who had fought against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Upon their return to Libya they grew angry about what they viewed as the corruption and impiety of the Libyan regime and formed the LIFG to create a state that would show what they believed to be the true character of the Libyan people.

    The most significant LIFG attack was a 1996 attempt to assassinate Gadhafi; LIFG members led by Wadi al-Shateh threw a bomb underneath his motorcade. The group also stages guerilla-style attacks against government security forces from its mountain bases. Although most LIFG members are strictly dedicated to toppling Gadhafi, intelligence reportedly indicates that some have joined forces with al-Qaida to wage jihad against Libyan and Western interests worldwide.

    After the assassination attempt, Gadhafi cracked down heavily on the LIFG, forcing many of its members to flee Libya and seek refuge in Europe and the greater Middle East. In June 1998 the LIFG warned that it would retaliate against Libyan targets abroad when Gadhafi threatened to eliminate opposition expatriates.

    http://www.cdi.org/program/issue/document.cfm?DocumentID=2836&IssueID=56&StartRow=1&ListRows=10&appendURL=&Orderby=DateLastUpdated&ProgramID=39&issueID=56
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Gravel Democrat Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 11:22 AM
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1. puntapié y recomendamos
"History by apprising of the past will enable them to judge of the future; it will avail them of the experience of other times and other nations; it will qualify them as judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views"
Thomas Jefferson, 1781





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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 12:53 PM
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2. I had to read that three times. Thank you. And thanks Thomas Jefferson n/t
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Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 01:07 PM
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3. Where will the Secret Wars end. I really hope Obama finds a way go get out
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 01:19 PM
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4. I don't think the problem is Obama. I think the problem is our system
which we have to change before it destroys us and another ancient civilization. We can't allow Coca-cola and cheap gas for industry to be a world priority for first world nations who consume more resources than the rest of the world combined, we sadly being at the top of the list.

The secret wars won't ever end until we, as a people, say no to the using more than our fair share and closing our eyes to how our government gets that fair share to us. If we didn't close our eyes the way we do, corporations would never have been able to take America over the way they did.

In 10 years, people won't even recognize this country anymore because the first world nations can really can win this one. The rest of the world is unwilling to be our slaves while we rape their lands and steal their resources uncaring about how many people we kill to enable a really sick way of life that kills people and the earth.
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JoseGaspar Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 04:17 PM
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17. Surprise, surprise...
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 01:24 PM
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5. That's creepy - National Front for the "Salvation" of Libya
:scared:

K&R

Interesting links
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 03:22 PM
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8. Thanks. I thought it was creepy too. Beyond creepy actually. n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 01:37 PM
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6. "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy." - John Quincy Adams
Too bad that's no longer true. We now go looking for bogeymen and if we can't find one we invent one.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 03:23 PM
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9. +1. Thank you. I had the same thing on my mind. Just invent what fits n/t
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 03:25 PM
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11. Wrong place. sorry. n/t
Edited on Fri Apr-01-11 03:27 PM by Catherina
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 03:25 PM
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10. I'm replaying my Splinter Cell games - send me in coach.
I can beat these bastards.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 01:46 PM
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7. While you're research mode, you seem to have forgotten your own post.
Only a month ago too. I missed it at the time, but your post came up in a google search I did, when I got curious about how opinions here turned 180 degrees so fast. So I wondered about Gadaffi's lobbyists, who they were, what they might be doing etc. And there was a post by Catherina at the top of the google results! Wow, what a surprise. I added some of the other links that turned up. Here ya go.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=777421&mesg_id=777957

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 03:45 PM
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15. Here Is the Text, Sir: Date Was 2/24/11
Catherina (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-24-11 10:17 AM
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14. May be Richard Perle, a Gaddafi lobbyist (and war on Iraq architect) told him to use "Al Qaeda" excu


Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
May be Richard Perle, a Gaddafi lobbyist (and war on Iraq architect) told him to use "Al Qaeda" excuse? http://politi.co/gasqCh #Libya
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 07:28 PM
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22. SO FUNNY. I guess we are not supposed to LEARN, EVER?? IT TOOK YEARS
of experience in my case, without which I would likely share the same, misguided, views as many progressives
have on the Libya issue.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 09:35 PM
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24. Learning, Sir, Is Not Changing From War With Eastasia To War With Eurasia In Mid-Sentence
Any old campaigner recognizes the symptoms....
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 03:27 PM
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12. k&r
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 03:27 PM
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13. Dear whomever in post #7. Sorry but you've been on my ignore list for a while now.
Whatever you're saying, please direct it elsewhere. My apologies for not rebutting your post.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 03:44 PM
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14. You Could Not, Ma'am: You Cannot Rebut Citations Of Your Own Previous Posts
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JoseGaspar Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 04:14 PM
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16. A good deal of the context is set simply...
...by the first line of your first quote: "King Idris".

There are no "Kings" in Libya and never have been. Old Idris was it - the only one. What is now Libya was incorporated by the Arab conquests in the 7th century and became Ottoman in 1517. The Ottoman provinces (with "governors") were conquered by the Italians and combined as a colony in 1911-12. The British occupied Libya in 1942-43, during the Second World War.

There was no "King", ever... The Brits made one up when they were forced to leave in 1951. Old Idris was simply the clan leader of the Senussi. The whole thing was a neo-colonial fabrication like so many of the period... with shades of Bao Dai and the "monarchs" of the Arabian Gulf. At least old Idris was actually in Libya instead of drunk in some French bar like many of the others.

The entire made-up "dynasty" lasted 17 years. The monarchical flag which the "rebels" now fly is even of shorter duration than that.

Idris' section of Libya has been pissed off ever since, with the first "revolts" going back to 1980 and continuing since.

This is a neo-colonial artifact, as is so much in Africa... no less, and no more.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 05:19 PM
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19. One thing that bothered me from the start was that flag
Hve any revolutionaries anywhere ever run around waving a flag? Especially the flag of a Western-imposed monarch? #WTF.

" the clan leader of the Senussi". It took about an hour of researching Libya's history to realize how certain entities were manipulating this.

Thank you. You went straight to the heart of the matter.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 04:41 PM
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18. Damn, more inconvenient facts.....

History is the template of the present.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 05:21 PM
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20. Welcome to the 21st century. If we thought facts were inconvenient before, just look now!
"History is the template of the present." Indeed.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 05:53 PM
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21. K&R
I guess I must be another tool of Qaddafi :eyes:
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 07:39 PM
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23. Thank you for the material.
Always need more to explore.
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