Three assholes in a Lexus.

[MGB67deux]

It has been a long, tiring week. My wife and I this afternoon driving on the freeway through Sacramento to have diner with a dear friend and looking forward to relaxation and comradeship.

Up beside us pulls a new Lexus with three young (mid 20s) men(?). Driver honks several times points to my bumper, gives a "thumbs down" gesture and pulls ahead.

What the hell? The bumper has a "Veterans for Obama" decal from the last election. For this sin this asshole figures to harass me at speed on the freaking freeway? Does he not like Obama? Does he not like veterans? Does he dislike old people? (my white beard and pony tale are a dead give away).

After stewing for a minute I did catch up to him and give him a questioning shrug. "What the fuck is your problem"? Again I get the "thumbs down". That earned him and his laughing asshole cohorts a simultaneous finger from both my wife and myself.

Okay. They are young. I understand that. I was young once myself..... over forty years ago in South East Asia.

Okay. They have the weekend off from shuffling papers and sucking other peoples money (as a guess) and are on their way to Tahoe to gamble or ski (another guess) or whatever the fuck young assholes in Lexus do.

But why hassle me on the flipping freeway? What kind of cowardly bully crap is that?

Someday, perhaps soon, they will bully someone who might be carrying HIS Smith and Wesson IN the car. Then they might learn the true relation of stupidity and the Darwinian theory. I won't cry and the world will have lost nothing of value.

Sorry for the rant but I just had to vent a bit.

[CC]

1. So you let a car full of

brats ruin your drive? I hope you didn't let it ruin your dinner. At most I might of shaken my head the way a mom does when they see a kid doing something stupid. Let it go. The only people it is bothering is you, unless you are making your wife suffer too.

[okieinpain]

8. i agree. n/t.

[rustydog]

20. Catch up to them...give the cheesiest hollywood smile and thumbs UP

blast past them and go enjoy your evening.

[flvegan]

2. They don't like your bumper sticker and that's grounds for

wishing they "bully someone who might be carrying HIS Smith and Wesson IN the car." Or maybe not "wish" but expect they will and get shot for it?

Dude, decaf. As far as them being in a Lexus, let's not make this about them having what they might think is a "sweet" ride.

[Liberal_in_LA]

3. a**holes drive beemers

IMHO

[Raine]

10. I don't know if everyone who drives a BMW is an

asshole but personally I know one in particular that is the biggest asshole and bully I've ever seen. :puke:

[Liberal_in_LA]

31. Scientific proof of my statement.

:-)

[Raine]

48. LOL

:thumbsup:

[JVS]

13. Assholes with good taste in cars. Assholes with bad taste in cars drive Lexuses

[Cali_Democrat]

62. Hey! I drive a bimmer

That's not true. We are great people :)

[me b zola]

4. I think its a step forward for conservs...

...if all they did was give a thumbsdown. They've been known to do full blown road rage, driving people off the road and pulling stupid weapons. Maybe they're becoming more sensible :shrug:

[Lyric]

5. Nah. They were just being practical.

If it had just been an Obama sticker, they might have done more. But the "Veteran" part made them at least *consider* the idea that this car might have a firearm inside of it somewhere. Conservatives are notorious cowards. They only directly bully people when they feel like there's no risk involved.

[me b zola]

7. i think u have a point

:)

[Skip_In_Boulder]

6. I'm with you

cleansing of the gene pool is what is needed. I saw that happen to a guy once who I tried to tell him that was where he was headed but like you said, he was young and full of P & V and just knew too much.

[BobTheSubgenius]

The title to the OP made me think it might be an SNL skit.

[Raine]

9. Why bother catching up with them, just let them go

and laugh it off. As far as the car it probably belongs to the father of one of them.

[slackmaster]

17. That would be the sanest, safest, amd most mature course of action

The OP was not dialed into being the best possible driver.

[blondeatlast]

30. "You're driving daddy's car and you are still white."

A friend of mine said that to a group of kids blasting rap as they approached a crosswalk we were in just a bit too quickly one day. I kind of cringed--but I thought it was hilarious, too. (I'm quite Anglo myself, btw, but said friend is not).

They looked properly embarrassed as ther were giggles from several people who heard it.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. Sacramento.

There's your problem.

Edit: No offense intended to the many, many fine people who do live in the Sac Basin. In fact, I suspect they know exactly what I'm talking about.

[Ikonoklast]

12. When people do that to me, I point back at them and laugh.

When they then flip me off, I laugh even harder.

Makes them crazy getting laughed at.

[Obamanaut]

14. Let's see. They passed you. They gave a thumbs down. They kept going.

You caught up with them. You had to increase your speed to do that. But they hassled you on the freeway?

They were gone. You chased them. They made you do it. That's almost like the Terry Jones book burning excuse. The book burning made the Afghan group behead people.

How easy it is to blame other people for stuff.

[timo]

36. true dat

arm twisting all the way!!

[pintobean]

15. They should be shot for giving you a thumbs down ?

I appreciate your service, but holy shit dude, get a grip. Like you, they were exercising their 1st amendment rights.

[slackmaster]

19. OP is lucky the Lexus dudes didn't have a Smith and Wesson in their car

Engaging strangers in conflict over nothing is always a bad idea.

[Codeine]

60. Are you kidding? I gunned down a family of five

just because they didn't respond to my "Honk if You're Horny" window sign. This is exactly the sort of unchecked aggression that must not stand.

[slackmaster]

16. Cool story, Bro! Plenty of childish behavior on both sides.

Your primary concern when driving should be safety. You allowed an emotional reaction to overcome your best judgment.

[A HERETIC I AM]

18. The best response, short of no response.....

is to simply smile REEAL big, point at them and then hold the tips of your forefinger and the thumb about 1/4 inch apart and then point at them again.

FOr addd effect, hold up your pinkie and follow the same procedure.

1/4" - point
Pinkie - point.


Even better, get your wife to do it also.

No man that is sure he is hung like a Shetland Pony wants to have the size of his manhood ridiculed by strangers.

[Nye Bevan]

22. Ridiculing the manhood of a potentially unstable stranger is always an *excellent* idea.

There is no possible way that could end badly.

[Raine]

56. Jesus

that seems like one of the most dangerous thing anyone could do, especially to some 20 somethings! :wow:

[dems_rightnow]

21. A thumbs down is now "bullying"

Wow.

[Codeine]

51. Oh yeah? Watch this!!

:thumbsdown:

How do you like THAT?! Huh? what are you gonna do about it?

.

.

.

:evilgrin:

[Shagbark Hickory]

23. When you put controversial or political messages on your car, be prepared for people that disagree.

I see a lot of anti-obama stickers and I've given my share of thumbs-down at speed.

[tuckessee]

24. Three assholes in the Lexus but there's at least four involved in the incident.

Maybe five if your wife also hopes people get shot for daring to disagree with your political views which you put out for the entire public to see.

[MGB67deux]

25. Let us be clear.

1. At no time did I exceed the speed limit or drive in an unsafe manner. It was not road rage.

2. First amendment rights? Hogspit! His act was one of calculated aggression. Apparently, he calculated that I was a benign "librul" and would have no reaction. Do you honestly think that this brown-shirt wanna be would have made the same gesture to a Hell's Angel? Do you think that that bloated gasbag with his foot on the neck of a young woman was "exercising his first amendment rights"? Think again.

3. Everyone has a tipping point. Hell, societies have tipping points. My threshold of bullshit has been surpassed. As much as I do admire Ghandi.... I am not him. The fascist assholes think that their power is on the ascendant..... maybe they are wrong.

4. I am neither and aggressive person nor a violent person but I do have my limits..... everyone does.

But today is Sunday and it is warm and the garden wants attention.

Cheers

[blueamy66]

26. I love the holier than thou people on DU

Give it a break. You don't know how you'd react.

Geez...sometimes DU is stupid.

[stuntcat]

45. .

ditto.

People act like Dicks to each other too much, it's a waste of words and time.

[pintobean]

33. You've made an awful lot of assumptions.

A thumbs down is simply a sign of disagreement. Assuming anything else is ridiculous. Anyone who puts political stickers on their vehicle runs some risks. What happened to you is fucking mild. Get over it.

[Rebubula]

34. So...

1) You said they drove and you caught up with them to ask 'what the fuck is your problem'? and, in response to their thumbs down (you put your opinion out there in the form of a bumper sticker) - you and the wife upgrade to a Fuck you?? And you do NOT see that as road rage??

2) 3 Smiling people in a car that give a thumbs down to your political sticker are tantamount to Hitler's brownshirts? When did a Thumbs down become harassment - shit, someone call Gene Siskel!!!!

3) Your tipping point is three guys giving you a pretty mundane and polite disagreement to a bumper sticker you put on your car? That is you tipping point? Please get help.

4) If that is your limit, please move somewhere unpopulated.

[blueamy66]

83. Wow.

It must be sooo awesome to be soooo perfect.

How do you do it?

"Please get help?" Really? Don't bring mental illness down to this level.

Just get back up on your pedestal so you can see all of us "little" people.

Geez.....

[Rebubula]

87. Rebuttal

OK...was not talking to you.

However, the OP started a thread where he mentioned that 3 people in another car gave him a thumbs down. He gets highly irate - follows them and then confronts them about a thumbs down signal. He and the wife then give them a Fuck You (and I would bet a few other choice words).

You do not see that as an over reaction to a minor situation? What if he had had a gun - what if the other car was full of violent people (instead of the juveniles that seemed to be riding in the lexus)?


I am guessing that you possess a persecution complex...just to continue the mental health tangent.

It is awesome being me.

[blueamy66]

88. Nope, no persecution complex.

I am quite responsible for myself.

Teling someone to get mental health for something like this is outrageous.

It's even more awesome being ME!

[timo]

37. thumbs down fascist?

thumbs down = fascism? someone disagrees with your bumper sticker and gives it the thumbs down and thats the definition of fascism??

[Obamanaut]

40. Let us be *really* clear.

1. Three young people in a Lexus passed you. You had to chase them down, but at no time did you exceed the speed limit. You really expect people to believe you overtook three young people - who passed you - without exceeding the speed limit? Chasing people down to give them the finger is road rage.

2. "Thumbs down" signal is not an act of aggression. Easing into your lane is. Pulling in front and pressing the brake is. Tailgating is. One wonders if you had not been safely in your car on the highway, but in a parking lot - would you have given the finger to three young people? (This in response to the Hell's Angel question - who by the way, rarely have bumpers or bumper stickers.)

3 and 4. You chased him down. That is aggressive. Gave them a finger (actually, with the wife it was two.) That is aggressive. They honked and gave you a thumbs down. That is not aggressive.

[MGB67deux]

79. I don't

give a fuck what you believe.

[Obamanaut]

89. Is this an example of your easy-going non-aggression? Proves my point, doesn't it. And

you do care or you would not have made the OP, or this response.

You just don't like being caught in your fantasy.

[blondeatlast]

27. Sorry for your aggravation, but in my red state hell, that's why I shun the stickers. The

harrassment just isn't worth it.

People are jerks, I'm afraid, and RRRepublicans moreso, and wishing for this group of foolish kids to encounter a RREPUBLICAN jerk who is armed strikes me as more asshole-ish than any of the above.

[snot]

28. Wish we could find a better solution than either giving them the finger or ignoring them.

[dems_rightnow]

39. There's the OP's Smith & Wesson solution, of course

Uh oh. Hope this doesn't find his tipping point..... :thumbsdown:

[MGB67deux]

78. Listen.

I spent thirty yeaqrs as a field archaeologist. In the early 80s I was working with a crew surveying several geothermal sites in the Southern California desert. The area was remote, we camped in Mexico, no cell phone no silly "911" dialing. We were harassed daily by construction workers (not all of them, but enough) who had an apparent priapism against environmentalists. The construction crew were fresh from working at Diablo Canyon.... a nuclear plant built on a fault. There had been quite a bit of protest about that placement and that project. Their slogan: "Ain't no hippie gonna stand between me and my paycheck". Every time we went to town to resupply there was harassment..... until one of our crew wore a holstered pistol. That pretty much stopped the trouble.

Since that time I did carry when in isolated areas, many archaeologists did and still do.

Draw your own conclusions.

[Warren DeMontague]

44. Give them the finger, THEN ignore them.

:shrug:

[WillyT]

29. Old Joke Here: "What's The Difference Between A Porsche And A Porcupine ?"

With a porcupine, the prick is on the outside.

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[Le Taz Hot]

32. I only put bumper stickers on my truck

a couple of years ago and I can't tell you how many times I've experienced aggressive driving from young assbites (always young, always male). The favorite is to speed up and start merging into my lane before they've cleared my front quarter panel so I have to slam on my brakes. That, of course, induces uproarious laughter from said peckerheads.

My offending bumper stickers:

"Coexist"
"Walk Softly on Mother Earth"
"Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History" (This one explains my sig. line.)

[Codeine]

35. By that measure Roger Ebert is the very soul of fascism. nt

[retread]

38. I thought this was going to be a Bill Gates story. n/t

[formercia]

41. Something similar happened to me many years ago.

but when I stuck the business end of my AR-15 out the window, they suddenly had a change of heart and disappeared into the night.

[Codeine]

42. "You are entering a world of pain, son."

[formercia]

66. You should have seen the look on their faces.

One second it was anger, the next, ......:rofl:

[david13]

43. Ah, just some dim witted ditto heads. Pay no attention to them.

That type of thing is why I never use bumper stickers or anything like that, tho'. There are literally millions of morons out there like that in the world, and you can't let three of them ruin your day.
But it may be easier if you don't wear your politics on your shirt sleeve as it were (or bumper).
There are rules. Never discuss politics or religion in polite society, or in mixed society. Add sex in there also, if you like.
Makes for more pleasant days and more pleasant conversations.
dc

[ZombieHorde]

46. I would not let a thumbs down spoil my time. Your time is more valuable than them, nt

[Libertas1776]

47. As someone mentioned before

whats with all the holier than thou criticism. I can totally understand the frustration on the part of the OP. And the act of them honking their horn several times is aggressive enough. They didn't just innocently make a hand gesture ya know?

Nonetheless i wouldn't have wasted my time or energy flipping them off. Thats too easy. I would have just blown them a big fat kiss!!

[Codeine]

50. A honk and a thumbs-down is aggression?

Who knew?

[Libertas1776]

55. Yes

several honks, as mentioned by the OP, is indeed aggression.

[Codeine]

58. That's just completely absurd to me.

Y'all can be some delicate flowers sometimes.

[Libertas1776]

73. Well then your

daily commute must consist of a pleasant drive down Main Street in Mayberry. :eyes: The thought that someone cannot find several repeated slams of ones horn not to be an act of aggression is absurd to me. So i guess that's an impasse.

[Codeine]

75. SoCal freeways, daily.

I know aggression. A honk isn't aggression. Neither is a thumbs-down.

[Libertas1776]

76. Well i drive NY roads daily

and on my coast, multiple slams on ones horn and pulling up beside someone to make a gesture is an aggressive act. I know aggression in my neck of the woods. To each his own then.

[MGB67deux]

49. Please accept my humble apology.

I did not know that so many of you were in Sacramento yesterday and apparently witnessed the entire event. Of course you would know my speed and trajectory as well as my thoughts and the thoughts of the asshole in the Lexus. I have gathered from you that it was all my fault for having the audacity to be driving on the freeway and that the asshole was merely expressing his first amendment rights in a brotherly manner. It was folly of me to expect that I could express MY first amendment rights.... after all, this is a Fascist society. And now I know how it BECAME a Fascist society.

I also did not know that so many of you were Holy men. Your godly compassion for Fascist assholes shames me... it really does. I am sure that every Fascist asshole is thankful for your understanding.... in fact, they are counting on it.

This asshole was the emblem of Fascism and representative of all of his regressive brothers and sisters in Hannityville and Beckland. Unless you finally realize that Fascist assholes are your enemy..... you have no hope. Get used to it.

Again, accept my apologies.

Out.

[JVS]

52. Is your car an MG B?

Those are awesome.

[Codeine]

53. And the winner for "Most Gratuitous and Repetitive Use of the Term 'Fascism' is. . ." nt

[MGB67deux]

69. It is about time

SOMEONE fucking said it. Get used to it.

[Codeine]

71. yeah, because prior to this point DU has been sorely lacking in

accusations and allegations of fascism. :eyes:

[blondeatlast]

84. For DU, that's quite an accomplishment. nt

[pintobean]

57. How do you know they weren't progressives

dissatisfied with Obama's rightward leanings? You don't. The only communication was some thumbs down, a shrug and 2 middle fingers up. Plain and simple; you don't know shit about them, or their motive. But WTF, someone should shoot them. Who's the fascist?

[MGB67deux]

70. I am sooooo

glad that you were there.

[pintobean]

77. All we have to go by is what you've written.

A few facts and a lot of assumption. Maybe you could clarify how you know what they were thinking.

[MGB67deux]

80. But YOU know

exactly how?

[pintobean]

85. I haven't claimed to know anything

other than, you freaked out over an assumption. It's extremely unlikely that they are actually fascists and they certainly don't deserve to be shot and killed for hurting your feelings.

[Populist_Prole]

68. I'd like to offer my support by agreeing with your sentiments.

I absolutely hate with a white hot passion the type of people you ran into. Smug yuppie assholes. I'm fed up with them. Where possible, I always point out to them ( within the bounds of legality ) the error of their ways. They need to be taken down several hundred pegs.

[MGB67deux]

72. Thank you....

you do understand.

[Obamanaut]

90. The OP did not run into them. The young people passed the OP, went on

their merry way with a mere thumbs down, and the OP chased them down to continue/escalate.

[HughBeaumont]

54. Surprised no one put this sign up . . . .

[Codeine]

59. I must be slipping.

Usually I'm all over that. :evilgrin:

[blondeatlast]

64. No kidding. nt

[lildreamer316]

61. I understand, and they are not worth your time.

Thank you for your service.

[eleny]

63. I'm with you

You can just take so much from a mindset like that and enough is enough. If it happened to me I probably would have flipped them off on the spot. It sounds like it all worked out.

Stay safe!

[Throd]

65. Don't put political stickers on your car if you are so fragile.

[Codeine]

67. Where's the poutrage in that? nt

[blondeatlast]

74. Thank you. While I don't actually think of myself as fragile, I just

don't want to deal with that kind of aggravation in red county, red state hell, so I give the stickers to my son to plaster all over his room.

[blondeatlast]

81. ,,,walk into a bar and order martinis. They get up to leave and ask the barkeep for the total,

barkeep says "$48.99" and adds, "y'know, we don't get assholes in here often."

Third asshole says, "Yeah, and at these prices, we'll shoot you."

I may have gotten that slightly wrong, it's pretty old... ;)

[unkachuck]

82. K&R....nothing worse than being hassled when you're not looking to be hassled....n/t

[CreekDog]

86. Adding this to the surprisingly long list of rants about nothing that we've seen here today

:eyes: