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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 06:50 PM Original message |
What is the goal of capitalism? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. to accumulate capital. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. And once again, I can add nothing to the words........ |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. Delete. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
85. ? the words of marx. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. Take it as praise that people think you're that good of a writer. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #85 |
104. Yeah, that too........ |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. +1 |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. +1 |
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Zephie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm not who you want answers from, but I believe capitalism's goal is |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Actually, that's a step beyond capitalism, I think. And it's where we are now. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't believe what we are experiencing is capitalism. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Blaming liberals, huh? Nah, this is unadulated capitalism. Pure GIMME Greed. nt |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I think Neo-libearlism refers to a return to the econmic |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. The use of n-l is to taint liberalism. It's so obvious. nt |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Liberalism tainted itself - no one helped it. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Yes, when this idea recently became popular it was called neo-conservatism... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. An uneducated response - they are not the same. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. You're right, thank you. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
72. The "liberalism" part of neoliberalism refers to liberal trade policy, i.e. little to no... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #72 |
89. thanks |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
83. Um...no it is not. Economic liberalism has and always will refer to free-market economics. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. thanks |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
86. No. "Neoliberalism" refers to the return of classical liberal economic doctrine (19th century). |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. thanks |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. this a few years back confused me as well |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. More Money... |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Here's Milton Friedman on the topic: |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
46. Great post. We have been under Friedman's fantasy for 30+ years |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. Growth of profits. |
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OffWithTheirHeads (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. Ever play Monopoly? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. What is a shark's goal? |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
10. To use the masses inherent greed as a means of control... |
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
11. Capitalism = protect property owners |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. Profit |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. sounds a little like a nuclear reactor. apt analogy. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. So that rich people can get richer and one will be the Bestest with the Mostest. |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
14. growth |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
15. Accumulation and profit. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
17. maximize profits for the tiny minority. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
19. since a lot of people seem to agree with my assessment |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. whether we want to admit it or not |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. Has any one responding to this thread actually run a business of any kind? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. Have you ever read any Marx? Where exactly do you think |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. That is the problem with captialism |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
102. I beg to differ. It's not exploitation if you have to bear the risk. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
55. Because a few hundred years ago, it was a step up |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. There are times when I wonder |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I agree with that. Both systems result in a despotic elite........ |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. It should have taken over years ago. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. While it was a step up from feudalism (several steps up, imho), Marx |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
95. same question can be applied to gambling |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. Capitalism is a form of slavery.. |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
22. For me, to provide a decent living for myself and my family. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. How does capitalism as a system provide that? |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. It allows me to sell my services for money so I can buy things from other people |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. that's right |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. I do benefit from it. Without any apologies. |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. good for you! |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. You actually don't. You don't need to apologize for being exploited. |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Funny, I don't feel too exploited. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Ahh the great delusion of capitalism. |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Thanks. From now on, I'll make sure to be sufficiently miserable at all times. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. That's the beauty of capitalism... |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Who else is gonna pay my bills? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. That was just my $.02.... |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Working crazy hours to stay afloat isn't normal. |
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AlabamaLibrul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
84. So you're "far from comfortable", are forced to work "crazy hours to stay afloat" |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
92. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of life under capitalism. n/t |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
98. You are BOTH right |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
76. If you work for a for-profit concern, you are not being fairly |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. You're talking about 'money' - 'money' is a thing |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
87. That may be your goal within capitalism, but it's not a definition of capitalism. |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
25. Wrote a song about it, and it goes like this |
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JFN1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
27. There is NO goal for capitalism |
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Marblehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
49. weird but true |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. This is true. If a capitalist could make money today....... |
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Terra Alta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
28. to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
29. Not only to enrich the rich, but to make all others sell property and possessions at fire sale. |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
32. It has no goal. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
33. Step 1 - get rich. Step 2 - ??? Step 3 - Profit! |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Shouldn't it be step1-proft. step 2- get rich |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. I was using the underpants gnomes theory from South Park. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. Theft. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
47. CAPITALISM IS CANCER - n/t |
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some guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
48. To increase profits for the owners. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
50. The same as the black hole, to consume everything everywhere if it can. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
51. the goal of capitalism.... |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
65. To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women. ... |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
67. The accumulation and concentration of wealth. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Well put. nm |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
68. Wait I think have it. UNLIMITED POWER!!! |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
73. To pillage and burn..nt |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
77. The goal of any economic system is to allocate resources to maximize the happiness of the people |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
78. It is about creating wealth pure and simple. What is done with the wealth, how it is split up |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
79. I don't think capitalism (an anonymous economic system) has |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
80. To accumulate wealth, obviously |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
81. 3% Compound Growth sustained unlimitedly. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. But given that everyone knows it's impossible... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
94. Whoever dies with the most toys wins and... |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
96. Pigs everywhere. |
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FreeJoe (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
99. Goal? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
100. I Think a Hybrid System is the First STep |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
101. Historically, governments kept the earnings of the people |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. More like the anti-capitalism shows an understaning of the true nature of the system. |
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