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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 01:58 PM
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If Taiwan is Concerned About Radiation This Week, Tokyo and Korea Should be Worried:
Edited on Mon Apr-04-11 02:05 PM by Junkdrawer
So I scanned LBN, and ran across this story:

"Nuclear fallout will "engulf" Taiwan starting April 6 — "People should stay home"

According to a report from enenews.com, "Nuclear fallout will "engulf" Taiwan starting April 6 — "People should stay home" or "Immediately take off their clothes and cleanse nuclear contaminants" (VIDEO) April 4th, 2011 at 01:34 AM" The report explains:

....

Boosted by the southward movement of cold air from the Chinese mainland, these northeast winds will push a cloud of strontium and radioactive iodine particles toward Taiwan from a distance of about 2,500 km, and then the weakening high pressure over Taiwan will draw in the fallout, which will engulf the whole island for at least two days from April 6 on. …

People should stay home while the nuclear fallout is here in order to avoid prolonged exposure, a specialist with the Veterans General Hospital said, adding those who must go out should immediately take off their clothes and cleanse nuclear contaminants from their bodies as soon as they are back home.

People should wear long-sleeved clothing and masks when they go out on a sunny day and carry an umbrella if it rains, said 's Lee Jo-chan, who also recommended cleansing showers, but not iodine tablets and table salt.

....

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Asia/Story/A1Story20110404-271670.html


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4799965&mesg_id=4799965

So I ask myself: "How can Taiwan be hit and not Tokyo?" Then I went to woweather.com and checked the radiation forecasts:

Iodine 131:
http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis131&HH=0&LOOP=1

Xenon 133:
http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis133&HH=0&LOOP=1

Caesium 137:
http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis137&HH=0&LOOP=1

All show glancing blows to Taiwan, but direct hits for Korea and Japan. And here's where it gets curious:

When I go to Google News and enter "Japan radioactivity forecast", all I get is stories on Taiwan:

http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=dKQbaY88976vTcMffJ6m7vDeGDESM

So, later this week, when this weather/radioactivity event is over, will all we get is stories about how Taiwan was worried about nothing?



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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:03 PM
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1. That link says nothing about fallout "engulfing" Taiwan.
Edited on Mon Apr-04-11 02:04 PM by Hannah Bell
Radioactive fallout may hit Taiwan in two days

Nuclear fallout may hit Taiwan on Wednesday evening at the earliest, after a small amount of radioactive iodine-131 was detected in the skies over Taiwan last week, said the country's nuclear energy authorities yesterday. The fallout will come straight from Japan's Fukushima, where a stricken nuclear power plant is steadily leaking radioactivity, but the impact on Taiwan will be "minimal," said the Executive Yuan's Atomic Energy Council (AEC) in a forecast.

Radioactivity at 0.0638 sieverts per hour, much lower than the 0.2-sievert alarm level, is expected, the agency said, adding it will step up monitoring of airborne fallout and warn people not to go out if radioactivity reaches alarming levels.

The estimate, based on an AEC simulation model, is six times the radioactivity detected in a previous observation and equal to the background value.

Breathing in the particles for a whole year is equivalent to one 300th of an X-ray examination, said Lee Jo-chan, director of AEC's Department of Radiation Protection.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:05 PM
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2. I copied the headline from LBN, but forgot the link. Corrected. n/t
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:10 PM
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4. Read the story you linked. It nowhere contains the word "engulf" which you have as a
direct quote.

Also the tone is completely different.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:13 PM
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5. Again: Not my words. Came from LBN. And...
the whole point of my post is that the threat to Taiwan seems overblown compared to the Korea/Japan forecast.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:16 PM
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6. The LBN post also misreports what is actually written at that link. Just because you copied the
Edited on Mon Apr-04-11 02:18 PM by Hannah Bell
false LBN post doesn't excuse the fact that you're repeating false information.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:18 PM
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7. Woosh...right over your head. n/t
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:20 PM
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8. no, over yours.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:55 PM
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10. thank you for pointing out the LBN thread that breaks LBN posting rules
of having subject line be actual headline, not sensationializing stuff.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:59 PM
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11. yet it has 40 recs.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:02 PM
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12. and still stands in LBN all day.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:17 PM
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13. it seems to be deleted. Goes to show that an OMG subject line gathers lots
of recs whether true or not. Thanks Hannah.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 05:59 PM
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16. Um.. That headline has been all over today...
Here's where it originated but you can find it in many places:


http://enenews.com/nuclear-fallout-will-engulf-taiwan-starting-april-6-people-should-stay-home-or-immediately-take-off-their-clothes-and-cleanse-nuclear-contaminants

The OP may have used words he saw elsewhere but used a different link.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:10 PM
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17. The "enews" article is just a cut & paste of the asiaone article plus a
an editorializing/sensationalistic headline.

the poster didn't link to the enews article, s/he linked to the asia one article; it didn't have such a headline.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:19 PM
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14. Indeed, the OMG posting about Taiwan is overblown compared to Japan forecast
Notice that thread is not disappeared also. I haven't heard about Korea forecast, can you enlighten me?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 05:28 PM
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15. Well, if you read my OP, there's links to forecasts....
and they show a plume passing over Korea and Japan later in the week.

And one of the major thrusts of the thread is that I can't find any articles about that but the Taiwan exposure, which seems orders of magnitude smaller, has 20+ articles.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:08 PM
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3. Also, if you read my post, I agree that Taiwan will be, for the most part, missed....
wish I could say the same for Korea and Japan. :(
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 02:47 PM
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9. Kick
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