Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

U.S. changes how it measures long-term unemployment - from 2 to 5 years

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 12:27 PM
Original message
U.S. changes how it measures long-term unemployment - from 2 to 5 years
U.S. changes how it measures long-term unemployment

So many Americans have been jobless for so long that the government is changing how it records long-term unemployment.

Citing what it calls "an unprecedented rise" in long-term unemployment, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), beginning Saturday, will raise from two years to five years the upper limit on how long someone can be listed as having been jobless.

The move could help economists better measure the severity of the nation's prolonged economic downturn.

The change is a sign that bureau officials "are afraid that a cap of two years may be 'understating the true average duration' — but they won't know by how much until they raise the upper limit," says Linda Barrington, an economist who directs the Institute for Compensation Studies at Cornell University's School of Industrial and Labor Relations.

Likening recessionary unemployment spikes in recent decades to a storm at sea, she says, "The waves are getting higher, and we want to understand the intricacies of how they're made up."


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-12-28-1Ajobless28_ST_N.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 12:30 PM
Response to Original message
1. a sad sign of the times. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 12:32 PM
Response to Original message
2. Nice academic exercise for people with cushy jobs
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Actually that cushy exercise could also lead
to fed programs to suport these people and all that.

It is not just academic. It will have REAL policy effects.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 12:32 PM
Response to Original message
3. Have to Ask
Is this being done to make things appear that they're improving?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. No, they used to drop counting you at two years
now they will keep counting you for three more years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinqy Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. Untrue
The article is a little misleading, though the truth is in there. Previously, when asking how long someone was unemployed, the highest category was "more than 99 weeks." That doesn't mean someone unemployed for 5 years wasn't counted as unemployed, just that there was no way to tell how many were unemployed 2 years versus 3 versus 4 etc.

Now, there will be more categories, that's all. The definition hasn't changed and there has never been a max time to be counted as unemployed. If you're actively looking for work, it doesn't matter how long you've been unemployed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 12:39 PM
Response to Original message
4. If the conservatives had their way they would....
measure unemployment a maximum of 3 months. After that you are just a lazy person that doesn't want to work and wants only to live off the fruits of those that do work. I think I have that right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. You do
Except that three months is too long... three weeks you bum.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 01:01 PM
Response to Original message
8. The government has been........
changing the way everything is figured, from unemployment to the cost of living. But this is always bad news for the American people and good news for the ones fixing the books.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Just another use of the Enron accounting methods. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 10:40 PM
Response to Original message
11. Unemployment was around 5% for the first half of '08


and now, less than two years later, we're told to accept a new reality? where's this long-term pattern they're talking about?

This smacks of the same bullshit as the sudden concern for austerity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Translation: The rich, who own 88% of the assets in the US, are on strike
until they've racheted labor down to the place they want it.

Meanwhile, they'll make up a boatload of lies to disguise what they're doing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 04:09 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC