It seems many around here have forgotten

[reggaehead]

how Presedential politics works. Which is understandable given the 8 years of the Bush Dictatorship. The idea is a simple one. In the first term you run to the middle. The second term is where you build your legacy. Obama's re-election is the most important thing that will happen in the world during the next 2 years. Do you really want a Supreme Court with another Scalia or Thomas?

[avaistheone1]

1. Bullshit.

Another four years of Obama is going to give us corporatism on steroids.

No thanks.

[cliffordu]

3. No thanks?

WTF are you going to do??

I really gotta hear this...or read it......

[jaxx]

4. Well at least we know it won't be a hazardous dose of socialism.

[rurallib]

5. America will be better with Mittens or Sarah

am I right or am I right?

:sarcasm: for the humor impaired.

[avaistheone1]

12. It will probably be Mittens

and he unfortunately he is not all that different than Obama.


Remember Obama modeled his health care plan on Mittens' plan - which is Obama's signature piece of legislation.

Cute, we call romney Mittens, and do they call Obama, Obomba?

[NightWatcher]

2. Nope, un uh, not buying it. More threats and Bull Shit

He should have done some "legacy building" in lieu of more nation building. He should have shown us what he's made of this time around and set back to see if we want more of the same.

What, no 3-D chess arguments about a "master plan" that we're too dumb to get?

[davidthegnome]

6. Wow...

"Obama's re-election is the most important thing that will happen in the world during the next 2 years."

You know, personally, I'm voting for him. I've pointed out numerous times that, disappointed as I may be, I'll vote for him because he's not as bad as the other side.

Still, your ability to predict the future and judge the most important event in the world.... frankly I'm in shock. I was unaware we had psychics that powerful right here on DU.

[Coyote_Bandit]

7. Ummmm......No

FDR left a legacy in 100 days - which he built on for the remainder of his time in office.

[sufrommich]

8. His approval rating is higher than Clinton's and Reagan's

were at the same period of their administrations. I don't think he has to worry about the DU doom and gloom contingent here.

[robdogbucky]

11. So, how goes things in Michigan?

Are you still hoping that good faith "negotiations," are appropriate in the situation Michigan citizens/labor now finds itself in there?

What are you doing to stop the bagger gov you elected?

Didn't see your name on the Michigan state forum, telling everyone what you are doing for labor in Michigan.

Are you in the streets every day, or are you just waiting to negotiate in nice springtime weather?

Good luck to all Michiganders, you will need it.



On, Wisconsin!

[RaleighNCDUer]

23. If his approval ratings are so high, please explain the 2010 elections. nt

[TheKentuckian]

9. Why don't you give us some history to illustrate your point?

My recollection is the heavy lifting is done early, for the most part and the second term is lame duckitude, selling a legacy, and making deals to benefit those with deep pockets.

I think your point misses the mark, unless you are going back to FDR and he was elected four times and had to keep earning votes rather than strategically placing himself for speaking tours.

[jwirr]

17. Well I remember back to JFK and I think either it had to get done

in the first 100 days (the honeymoon) or it waited until the 2nd term. And the 2nd term only if the president was lucky enough to have a congress with a workable majority. I think it has happened both ways in history.

[rucky]

10. Like Reagan? Bush? Clinton? FDR?

nope, nope, nope and nope.

[WatsonT]

13. So you vote for a president in the Hope that half his time in office he won't be completely

against you?

[JohnnyRingo]

14. I'm shocked that many believe we can just pul;l a switcheroo.

They think if we tell the country to ignore our 2008 choice and get behind a new dandidate, the Republicans will let it go. As if we won't have to hear how Democrats can't be trusted ever again or that we're demanding a "true socialist" to replace Obama.

I know a lot of the malcontents are those who supported other candidates back then, but the alternative to Obama 2012 is a Republican White House for decades, and that's a reality. Dems were steamed about Clinton's work with Gingrich on such things as welfare reform and such, but we didn't try to pull him in '96. As I recall, it got so bad that Gore wouldn't be seen with Clinton in his 1999 campaign, but we didn't turn our back on him.

I know where this is going. Many of those who feel disallusioned will stay home in November 2012 in a stereotypical Democratic hissy fit leaving us to scratch our collective heads wondering how this guy ever got in a position to blow the corporate class for the next eight years:

[RebelOne]

21. Well, I will not be staying home

in November 2012. And I will not be voting Republican. If there is a Democratic candidate that I like better than Obama, I will vote for him or her. Bot otherwise, Obama will get my vote

[JohnnyRingo]

25. That's good news.

My other fear for 2012 is that half of us will decide to vote for someone like the Democrat's favorite vote splitter, Ralph Nader, to stand up to Obama and show him that he's not the only date in town.

In that case, the Republicans can count on us to make way for a Koch brother in a cabinet post because they won't waver on voting for the party nominee. If they're faced with a candidate they don't like, they'll just hold their noses while they enter the booth to punch the hole for the "R" and rid the White house of what they consider a blight on the country.

[Occulus]

15. "It's only been four years"

UNREC. Did you think we haven't heard this particular song and dance before, with a slightly different beat last time?

[bemildred]

16. What sort of simple minded twaddle is this?

Politics is not physics and it is not predictable and there are no rules that it must obey except the Constitution and the law, and we tend to ignore even those freely these days.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

18. Wow, I see there has been a brand new enforcer army sent out --

"Get the hell in line, soldier!" :eyes:

Sorry, you can't scare me any more.

[WilliamPitt]

19. Same argument I've been making here for ten years.

Each year I make it, things get worse.

Think I'm done with that argument for a while.

[piratefish08]

20. hope for more change?? nah. I'm done.

[Romulox]

22. Clinton moved to the RIGHT in his second term. nt

[TheKentuckian]

24. No doubt and if and when it happens again, I think we recall the talking point

"It is for the future electability of the party" and "we must be a viable alternative to the Republicans for "moderate" voters".

Which means this bus is headin' Reich to avoid the Reich circular logic that screws the poor and workers aka most folks in the country.