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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:12 PM
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Have Democrats completely forgotten how politics works?
First you put out the very worst (or best) depending on which side is yours, Bill or situation, you possibly can and then settle for something in the middle which still benefits your side..It seems to me things changed when Bush* took over. He would put out the very worst possible and Democrats would go along readily without so much as a whimper. It has seemed to carry over in the Obama Administration only in the wrong direction.. Right now the very worst Budget Plan one could imagine has been put forth by the Republicans and no matter what, they will win.. Even if Democrats do find something in it to object to, Republicans are still going to get almost everything they really want.. Draconian cuts in Social Programs and increases in Defense Spending and more Tax Cuts...What do Democrats put forth, Cuts in Social Programs and more Defense spending....A good time to be a Republican in america but a bad time for the American family...America is crumbling around our feet while the wealthy get more tax breaks...
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:14 PM
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1. Don't kid yourself
They can't be that stupid.

But they can be that corrupt.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:19 PM
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4. Yes indeed - Dems are that stupid!
They have done so time and again. I have my strong doubt that Dems will do much to change the debate. After all Dems do have there fall back position: "we are keeping our keg dry for when we need it!". They always beating a retreat from fights.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:24 PM
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5. I still say: Corrupt.
They know what they're doing.

They don't want US to know.
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:30 PM
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6. It's not that Democrats are stupid
It is that they tend to intellectualize everything, which is fine when one is building a society, but this is political warfare we are engaged in and Democrats just do not understand that. They just do not operate with a militaristic mindset and that is what wins in these deals.

Unfortunately, Republicans understand a ground war game all too well.
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:16 PM
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2. They're redefining how politics works so it always works for the people paying both sides
Republicans advance their agenda
Democrats fail to stop it

Pretty simple. What to do about it is another story.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:18 PM
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3. It's a combination of Good Cop/Bad Cop, The Spanish Prisoner & Stockholm Syndrome
fucking dysfunctional any way you slice it.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:34 PM
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7. What makes you think that politics works?
The GOP broke it; and the Dems are too spineless to fix it.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:39 PM
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8. Bought and sold.
The difference is that they try to hide it better.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:40 PM
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9. "History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians.
"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians.  Now, to go and stick one at the very head of government couldn’t be wise." Mark Twain
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 02:59 PM
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10. Two words: Citizens United
We no longer matter to either party.
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