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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:06 PM Original message |
Rachel talked about something last nite that really needs to be answered. Why is it that the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. The Republican party has convinced their base |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. No. But he's working on it.. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
53. Yep. nt |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
87. Yeah, I would agree that the Democratic.... |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. President Obama signed an executive order to close Gitmo |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Facts don't matter to some! |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
83. Of course we remember, and we're not about to vote for the GOP. n/t |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Thank you for this clarification. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
39. At face value, your statement has merit. But what tools did Obama use to |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #39 |
54. He only pushes for the things that matter to him |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
58. Link? On edit--never mind, I found it--you are right. |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. The republicans scared everyone. They kept |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
95. Of course they ran, Obama wants to be seen as a lover, not a fighter. n/t |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 05:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
101. If Congress had defunded the transfer while I was President, I'd've pulled out a credit-fucking-card |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. Fascism...where ya been? |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. A large part of the Republican base want politicians |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Look what's going on in the budget debate. Boner comes to a compromise with Biden last week and the |
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roxiejules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
45. I think part of it is "theatre" |
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Monique1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I keep asking the same thing |
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Township75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. The repub base has walked on them before, unlike the Dem base |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
8. Both sides like it that way |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Tea Baggers ask for what their owners (the Koch bros) tell them to ask for |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. Not fair. The Democrats play to the Republican base too. |
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BklynThirtyThree (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Ha! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
55. Sadly true. nt |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
81. zingggg. |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. The Republican base does not run the Republican party... |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
78. I think that's true |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
84. The Democratic base does not run the Democratic Party either, correct? |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
13. Because the Corporatist New Dems truly believe that the base has nowhere else to go. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. and they think their base is only useful for photo-ops |
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ReggieVeggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. and the base doesn't rock the apple cart |
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Curmudgeoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
14. I believe that the Republican base is not running that party. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
15. Way back when Daddy Bush was running for a second term, |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. The bases of both parties are continually played |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. The Conservative Base has gotten enough . and will get more |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
94. The bases of both parties are being played. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:44 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Yes, EXACTLY |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
17. their base doesn't run their party |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. We aren't as gullible, |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
19. Define base? Certainly not those who are promising not to vote next year nt |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
41. The base is where each parties ideology stems from. The more you move away from the base |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #19 |
56. No one is planning not to vote. And the base is certainly not those who were |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. One group generally has more knowledge than the other..... |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
24. I suspect |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
25. The reason is that the Republican base is MUCH bigger than the Democratic base. The democratic base |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
49. So how does that fit with the fact that there are more registered |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:00 AM Response to Reply #49 |
102. Did you read my post? |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
26. Their base is less fractured. |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
27. Because the (R) base always turns out for them while the (D) base doesn't |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:04 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. +1000 |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
60. The liberals or left wing would cheer small victories if |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. And they are claiming that they won't vote for him this time. |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Okay, let's go one by one |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
77. Read FR some time and see if you still think that |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #27 |
57. I don't buy that |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
59. When the D base has a reason to vote D, they will. Obama showed that in 2008. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
66. Oh gosh, and I thought blaming the victim was an exclusive Republican trait... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. The answer is , "Because we let them." |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. "Only the base itself will ever change that." |
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Blaq Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
32. MONEY speaks volume. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
33. I just wish we stopped these stupid wars. They cost too much. |
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athenasatanjesus (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
34. The real question is "why don't people politically in the center notice this" |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
36. The Repub base is just a fig leaf for the oligarchs' otherwise naked looting. |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
38. because the repugs do not have to deliver anything. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
40. They managed to create a party within a party and |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
42. Because the Dems want to foster the false impression that the majority of Dems are right of center. |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
43. The Republican people I know behave like lemmings |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
44. Because it is a scam that requires a lil touch. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Exactly. And we better start fighting the same fight and stop being naive. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
67. BINGO |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
46. #52 Recommendation. |
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Life Long Liberal (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
47. I agree we cannot seem to uniteas dems. |
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CrossChris (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
48. B/c in a debate between the selfish and the self-critical, the deck is stacked |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
50. No, they give the appearance that they fight for their base when in reality |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
51. It's all part of the larger plan to move everyone to the right. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. Corporations and very wealthy people |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
63. The Tea-Baggers made a lot of noise when they did not get their way. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
64. Pick me! Pick me! |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
65. the base is all the Repugs have. We have the base, and minorities, and union members, and women and |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
68. David Frum : " The GOP is scared of their base. The Democrats loathe their base." |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
88. I hate it when I have to agree with David Frum! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
72. Money, money, money. Their "base" is actually a fake |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
73. Bottom line is that Republican base doesn't care about corporate corruption. We do! |
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tinwi (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
74. Why doesn't some primary Obama? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Because his strongest support is among liberal Democrats |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
75. Freepers ask the same thing. All activists do |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
79. Because their base is bat-shit crazy and will kill them if they don't?n/t |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
80. #100... rec |
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brewens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
82. Corporations have the Democratic politicians bought off. At least |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
85. They vote. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
86. Both right-wings of the Corporate War Party |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
89. because the GOP base wants what the GOP pols want |
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roman7 (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
90. mom was right in leaning left |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
91. Establishment Dems hate progressives and feel we are nothing more that suckers. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
92. Simple. The democrats are playing to the republican base, too. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
93. I think you are mischaracterizing what Rachel said about Democrats and the Base |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
96. I agree this is one of our buggest issues. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
98. k&r |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 04:22 AM Response to Original message |
99. Because their base is stupid. To widen their base they've waged an assault on education for more |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 04:24 AM Response to Original message |
100. because the repub base gets their candidates elected |
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