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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 06:43 PM
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Stockholm Voters, they just love to be punished, hurt, lied to...and they still remain loyal
Edited on Tue Apr-05-11 06:45 PM by opihimoimoi
Time after time, the GOP voter gets lied to during campaigns, only to see disappointment addressed with more lies....and so, they remain with the Party only through loyalty.

How can the GOP voter justify their choice when trends and history indicate its a bad choice.???

I will answer....I think its the result of being easily fooled and ignorance....coupled with a hateful bias.

In any given society, there is a percentage susceptible to brainwashing,

Playing the base emotion card...the GOPer Masters feed them bullet points using psuedo reason.

The ones buying into the Emotional GOP fold feel good ...there are others of the same kind.

In the end. they get burned but only to return later.

They will swallow the excuses of why this or that failed.

The Stockholm voter of the GOP Party is an upgraded version of the Stepford Voter...ridgid, and bland, they fill a need.

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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 06:47 PM
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1. The GOP does its best to get rid of good schools
because uneducated voters will do what they are told by the talking box in their living room.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 06:48 PM
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2. you can say the same things about Democratic voters.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 06:49 PM
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3. Not really.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 06:57 PM
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7. .....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Pardon me -- I must go and have my irony meter fixed. It just imploded....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:58 AM
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33. Pardon me... I need to welcome you to my ignore list.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 07:15 PM
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9. Speaking of swallowing excuses as to why this or that failed.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 09:41 PM
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22. It's more true of Democratic voters
As Rachel Maddow pointed out last night:

"The Republicans may not love their base, but they fear them and play to them. The Democratic Party institutional structures of D.C., and the Beltway press in particular, not only hate the Democratic base -- they think it's good politics for Democratic politicians to kick that base publicly whenever possible."

Or has Rachel now been tossed under the bus with Jon Stewart and the rest of us?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 06:52 PM
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4. For the most part, the Democratic Party stands for benevolency and the common interst
I am addicted to what best for all of us..

The GOPs prism is too narrow

GOP = FAIL
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 06:52 PM
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Yes you can. Partisan politics is helping to keep the
status quo right where it is and it is destroying this country. Just the founding fathers feared.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 06:52 PM
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5. +1
I think the OP is beautifully crafted, LOL.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 06:54 PM
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6. I really thought this was going to be about Dem voters.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other

:shrug:
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 11:58 PM
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24. Same here. -nt
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 06:58 PM
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8. yuppers.
:thumbsup:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 07:16 PM
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10. Yes, you can definitely say the same thing about many Democratic
voters. :(

Especially the ones who insist that simply voting for any democrat, simply because that person is a democrat, and always showing support for the party, is the solution to everything.

These are the people who blast efforts at advocacy and holding politicians accountable. These are the people who blast the left for wanting to get more done, and wanting better policy.

:(

The democratic party has moved far to the right, because the whole political spectrum has moved far to the right.

The voters who buy into the current "mainstream" politics, and think the rightward agendas are okay are definitely a slightly lesser version of the same disease you see among republican voters.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:04 PM
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13. Whats the difference...? The DEMs overall philosophy is more Positive . The GOP is a lot more
nefarious...

The GOP is tied to Corp interests a lot more than the Dems.

Their recent moves to regulate and dictate reveal a strange bias toward the wealthy....I say strange because common sense sez lowering taxes for the rich is counter to good social rules.

Union busting: thats the GOPers goal

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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:25 PM
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16. Yes, union busting is the GOP goal.
Strangely, the Democratic party hasn't stood in the way.

Clinton made the decision that the democratic party would move to a reliance on corporate money, away from a reliance on labor. Since then, our party still takes money and volunteers from labor, but doesn't give them nearly the influence they used to have. Instead, our party backs big business more often than not in their anti-union efforts.



Look at Obama's current Education policy for a HUGE example of this. It is nothing more than a clear and obvious rehash of No Child Left Behind, plus mandating charter schools and vouchers.

The result, predictably is that,

1. Public schools are getting starved for funds.

2. Private schools are getting public money and charter schools that are supposedly public are being privately run.

3. In both cases, the teachers are almost always no longer unionized, which is having the effect of substantially and drastically decreasing the number of unionized teachers, and the strength of the unions.

4. Teachers are being systematically demonized for the educational problems that aren't their fault. Because of this, teachers are being forced to accept changes that further weaken their union-won benefits and rights, and the unions themselves.

This is a systematic dismantling of the public school systems, and the rights of teachers to organize and represent themselves and what is best for education.

Instead, education is being put into the hands of corporations that exist only to make a profit, as if they are the experts in education, not the teachers.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:47 PM
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18. Another diff is Polarity...the Dems are far more Positive while GOPers are more Negative
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:55 PM
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20. What does that even mean?
Does that mean that democrats will smile more and be more friendly while they channel billions into Wall Street "to big to fail" financial firms while ignoring unemployment?

Does it mean that they'll empathize with us as they fail to pass jobs bills?

Does it mean that they'll be happier people as they refuse to regulate derivatives, even as wall street is in the process of creating the current bubble in food commodities that are driving up food prices and creating food shortages? Will they kindly reassure people that everything is okay as people are starving because the food commodity bubble has increased food prices 300% or 500%?

What exactly does that mean in terms of policy that democrats are more positive?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:04 AM
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27. The odds favor the dems when it comes to issues re the well being of the Nation
Odds favor the Dems over many issues that create, and prosper.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 06:40 PM
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35. Again, generalizations without any details or meaning.
Do you have any details? Any policy to back up any of what you're saying? Anything at all?

It sounds like you're just saying that Dems are better because Dems are better.

How? Why? For whom? In what ways?

I agree that dems are slightly better. But unfortunately, only slightly. They used to be much better. But unfortunately, our party is infested with conservaDems who care more about power than issues, and more about winning elections than winning issues.

Our party has fallen in love with corporate money, and the myth that the moderate middle is somehow always right, even though the middle always moves to the right whenever the far-right asks them to.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:39 AM
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29. ^+1,000
I just found a site today. It's in my sig line. You might like it too. Helps me to NOT say what I feel here that would go down like a cup of cold sick.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 07:39 PM
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11. Seeing the headline, I thought we were talking about Democrats. (nt)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 07:45 PM
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12. I thought it was about Democratic voters too.
I used to ridicule Middle Class Republicans for voting AGAINST their own economic interests.

NOW, the Democratic Party is asking me to do the same.
WTF?



Who will STAND and FIGHT for THIS American Majority?
Lofty Rhetoric, Broken Promises, and Whiny Excuses mean NOTHING now.
"By their WORKS you will know them,"
and by their WORKS they will be judged.


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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:09 AM
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26. "NOW, the Democratic Party is asking me to do the same."
At one time, being asked to vote for the lesser of two evils used to mean voting for the one who wasn't quite what you wanted, but he was miles better than the other guy. Given time, he might actually grow with the job. Lately it's approaching the point of being asked to vote for someone you have no desire to vote for at all, for exactly the reason you state. When you're asked to vote against your own economic interests regardless...

:shrug:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:10 PM
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14. many are one policy voters.
Some only care about abortion, and ignore the rest because they always go for the pro lifer

Some are for lower taxes and don't care what damage it does to the nation as long as he/she thinks a few bucks can be saved

Some just hate the idea of two persons of the same gender being given the same rights as anyone else

Others want to feel safe and the only time they do is when others are being hurt in the name of our security


The list goes on and on. One policy voters exist and the (R)s play to them. They aren't being fooled, they just don't care.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:51 PM
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19. The GOPers Strategy is conquer thru division....they focus on divisive topics knowing
it will seperate into FOR and AGAINST...works when on a low level...

GOPers never have a viable plan...they shoot from the hip
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:14 PM
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15. whoopsie
Edited on Tue Apr-05-11 08:15 PM by sendero
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:26 PM
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17. It is a sad sickness and one that spreads and increases in reach and power by the day.
Containment to the Republicans has now be lost, unfortunately.

It was better for the society when it was just one "team" of standardless rubberstamps.

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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:56 PM
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21. Hate endures. They define themselves by what they are NOT.
How many in this country cannot get beyond the color of Obama's skin? He could fix every problem, employ everyone and raise the standard of living (or just stop the slide) and they would still hate him and vote GOP.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:58 AM
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32. Stepford voring...like the obedient brainwashed. we have a few roo
but them GOPers take the cake when looking at them as a GROUP.;

How to contend with existing mega problems(Planetary) and our National problem of available man power pools without work.

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 11:28 PM
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23. I thought you were talking
about Democrats.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:40 AM
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30. The D Party has its reputation of supporting the ARTs. positive POLARITY
which is on the good side of things...far better than the Neg Mode where the bad words apply far more than our Dems...
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:07 AM
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25. don't forget the scapegoating!
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 12:08 AM by 0rganism
I doubt the GOP could pull it off for so long without all those "Socialist Union Bosses", "Hollywood Elites" and "Washington Beltway Insiders" to blame.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:05 AM
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28. GOP = Bulliess = whiners
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:48 AM
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31. Which party is the GOP Republican or Dem?
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 02:57 AM by LaPera
Yes keep calling the assholes what the are Republicans - NOT GOP which the republicans much prefer.

There are many uninformed uneducated Fox "news" fucks who I've talked to who don't even know that republicans & the GOP are the same party - We have to spell it out for ALL - Call them what the are republicans

We worked hard to make "republican" the awful name that they are.

Because it's what republicans are and what people now know they are, nothing more than hateful, greedy, lying, elitist republicans and their name is now what typifies a republican.

To call them GOP or conservatives or Tea-baggers or right-wing is what they want and what they hide behind.....They ALL vote republican, certainly not democratic!

Republicans even tried to get republican taken off voting ballots and voting pamphlets in a couple of states and wanted the acronym "GOP" inserted on the ballots instead ...it didn't work!

Let's continue to call them what they are and how the vote, they are slimy corporate fascist REPUBLICANS!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:07 AM
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34. YES THEY ARE....I hear ya man....Republicons?? Would that work?
I hear ys on the warnings. :toast: :beer: :bounce: :smoke:
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