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Wed Apr-06-11 08:59 PM
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Kagan catches Scalia and Thomas intellectually napping |
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In a dissent responding to the conservative bloc's (including Thomas and Scalia of course) majority opinion stating that their is a lack of standing to bring suit against the government when it uses tax breaks to benefit religious causes/institutions but not when the money has been appropriated generally by the legislature.
She notes their past lack of differentiation between the two in other cases:
"And what ordinary people would appreciate, this Court’s case law also recognizes—that targeted tax breaks are often “economically and functionally indistinguishable from a direct monetary subsidy.” Rosenberger v. Rector and Visitors of Univ. of Va. , 515 U. S. 819, 859 (1995) (Thomas, J ., concurring). Tax credits, deductions, and exemptions provided to an individual or organization have “much the same effect as a cash grant to the of the amount of tax it would have to pay” absent the tax break. Regan v. Taxation With Representation of Wash. , 461 U. S. 540, 544 (1983) . “Our opinions,” therefore, “have long recognized … the reality that are a form of subsidy that is administered through the tax system.” Arkansas Writers’ Project, Inc. v. Ragland , 481 U. S. 221, 236 (1987) (Scalia, J. , dissenting) (internal quotation marks omitted)." -Justice Kagan
What a smart lady!
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:00 PM
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:06 PM
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2. Yeah, but that was then |
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This is now, and "Justices" Scalia and Thomas have suddenly decided that subsidies are subsidies and tax cuts are tax cuts and never the twain shall meet. Until they do.
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:35 PM
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10. She's setting up the conditions for the court to overturn itself. Which it has at times by using |
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dissenting opinions as a basis.
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:41 PM
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11. And in this case 50 years of precident |
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Thu Apr-07-11 05:08 PM
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32. You mean round trip, BACK to Flast? Mebbe, w/in her tenure. |
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VERY happy she (and Soto and Ginsburg and Breyer) are on the Court.
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:08 PM
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3. So glad she's on the court! |
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Nice choice there Mr. President.
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:09 PM
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:11 PM
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We all knew that Thomas naps most of the time, intellectually or just snoozing through arguments. But didn't their clerks pick up on this? I guess these guys have been so blatant in their ideological rulings that they thought no one was paying attention anymore or more likely, they didn't give a shit.
This court has been so awful since 2000 when they revealed themselves as cheap partisans. There's no telling how much damage these wingers will inflict upon the nation by the time they're through.
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:13 PM
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6. And people say that there is no difference between... |
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the Ds and Rs. She wouldn't be there without the President. Elections do matter.
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:46 PM
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14. Seriously. I am glad we got a couple on the SCOTUS to help balance it a little |
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Thu Apr-07-11 02:24 PM
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The Supreme Court can turn around laws made by Congress. The latest was making law that allows corps the ability to contribute any amount to THEIR candidate/party unanimously. Senile moment, can't remember the name of the case.
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Thu Apr-07-11 02:34 PM
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every time someone brings up that canard, I mention Elena Kagen and Sonia Sotomayor.
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Thu Apr-07-11 05:36 PM
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35. The person she replaced was far more Liberal |
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:shrug: Now if she had replaced Scalia or Thomas I might agree with you.
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Thu Apr-07-11 06:21 PM
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37. How many cases has she presided over? |
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Seems far too early in the game to be judging judge's SC decisions.
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Thu Apr-07-11 08:10 PM
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it never seems to end. :shrug:
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Thu Apr-07-11 09:10 PM
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43. Perhaps the only reason left |
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There's not much else in all honesty.
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:14 PM
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7. I wouldn't call it an intellectual nap, more like an intellectual coma. |
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Thu Apr-07-11 02:42 PM
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:17 PM
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8. Precedence is so 1999. |
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:23 PM
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9. Remember all the respect Roberts had for stare decisis before the Senate? |
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Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 09:23 PM by usregimechange
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Thu Apr-07-11 02:27 PM
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that's what the repubs always say when asked about settled cases. They are just foolin'........
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Thu Apr-07-11 03:45 PM
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30. lol, yeah, I knew he was lying through his teeth, it was a great act by a bad actor. |
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Wed Apr-06-11 09:44 PM
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13. Kagan and Sotomayor should put to rest any doubts |
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about Obama's ability to pick capable SCOTUS judges.
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Thu Apr-07-11 12:31 AM
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15. Just hope he gets 4 more years of it, country can't afford any less. |
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Thu Apr-07-11 02:30 PM
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There are some Very Old Justices that no doubt will have to be replaced in the next 6 years. It's Critical.....
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Thu Apr-07-11 05:09 PM
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33. ABSOLUTELY! Thanks for this. |
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Thu Apr-07-11 12:36 AM
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16. They better watch out! A REAL Justice sits on that court now and |
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can verbally/intellectually tie Scalia and Thomas together in knots and bows. Complacency kills...you two assholes think you are like the Koch brothers and invulnerable...remember that when you are getting removed by the Senate.
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Thu Apr-07-11 06:44 AM
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18. That's an outstanding slap their faces!! |
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Thu Apr-07-11 10:08 AM
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19. It's a shame that it won't be heard anywhere outside of court reporting. n/t |
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Thu Apr-07-11 10:18 AM
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20. Some tax breaks or more evil than others to them, dontcha know. Logical consistency isn't their |
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strongest personal quality.
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Thu Apr-07-11 10:19 AM
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21. I'm not trying to belittle Kagan's efforts, I do appreciate it, but catching |
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Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 10:23 AM by Uncle Joe
Scalia or Thomas intellectually napping or contradicting their own stated legal beliefs and judgments, when they become inconvenient is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Having said that, I do hope Kagan keeps up the good work of exposing their judicial hypocrisy, if nothing else for the sake of the record.
Thanks for the thread, usregimechange.
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Thu Apr-07-11 05:10 PM
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34. I'm sure she will, continue, that is. |
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Thu Apr-07-11 02:30 PM
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25. These two have been been awoken |
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They're ideologues, eyes wide shut.
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Thu Apr-07-11 02:35 PM
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27. Isn't Thomas always intellectually napping? |
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Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 05:07 PM by bongbong
Kagan is actually calling out the repigs on the SCOTUS. It's not going to change their decision-making process, which entirely consists of doing what their billionaire bosses order them to, but at least she's saying the emperor has no clothes.
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Thu Apr-07-11 06:12 PM
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36. Thomas has an intellect? |
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Thu Apr-07-11 06:44 PM
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38. That's why the right wingers hate her so much |
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Calling right wingers on bullshit = judicial activism
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