Why is it that Democrats put more emphasis on being correct than winning?

[rufus dog]

Honorable yes, yet when the game is rigged and a leg up is needed not too bright.

Clinton gets investigated for Whitewater pukes throw every turd at him the can find. End up getting a tip on a Blow Job, start impeachment hearings.

Obama provides a BC, three friggen years ago, numerous Repukes continue to question his birthplace including a few that are his top competitors. They get TV time to take shots at him which means they are basically rewarded.

An asshole Republican Governor goes after Union rights in Wisconsin, he makes false statements and lies about his union busting efforts.

An election is held that could severely impact the the Asshole Govs power. Looks like the Repubs take a big defeat, oh wait, some votes were missed. The county clerk, a staunch republican with a checkered past makes a mistake and admits to her error. Now that may be the end of it, or with some digging she might have some other irregularities.

At worst the republicans are put on the defensive, possibly under intense scrutiny there is something else amiss? Public opinion would continue to be "what is up with those asshole repubs in Wisconsin?"

Earlier I posted a thread "Please - Don't help the Republicans" and clearly stated that none of us have the facts but basically who cares! I got the response "you don't know the facts"

The post was meant to convey, hey let them friggen stew in the shit with a reprimanded count clerk - FUCK THE FACTS!

Then in other threads there are numerous posts validating that Nickolaus just made a mistake, let it go.

Now if I a dealing with a teen age kid who is just learning and made a mistake, I agree.

But when you are dealing with a immoral enemy who would cut your fucking throat if you fell down in a back alley fight that is the last thing you do. They have not and will not play fair and so when they fall down, don't help them up.

[Rex]

1. They don't want to look like the assholes in the history books?

[rufus dog]

2. if you don't win you are the FUCKING ASSHOLE in the history book!

Or am I wrong the the TX school board rewrote history to meet the RW interpretation

[Rex]

5. Actually,

TX schools are doing away with liberal arts, nice huh? Okay I meant the BIGGER ASSHOLES...they don't want to be remembered as that.

[Newest Reality]

3. Follow the money?

Most of the democrats are not in our lowly, average class. They have to represent the money that is given to them in their plight to be elected and/or retain an office. They also have to make sure, financially, that they can continue their own, personal well-being for the future.

If any politician does their job right and serves their paying constituents, (rather than biting the hand that feeds them) they get a "revolving door" card that assure their futures. Why would they want to circumvent or interfere with that process? It really doesn't matter how we perceive of that process or what we expect. What is most important is, not what matters in the way of public service or the public good, but what they have to do to serve their own personal, best interests. This is not about public service and altruism anymore, it is about what is good for them and their own agendas. What they have to be good at is assuring and convincing us that they somehow are doing something for us.

When we can get that, then we might change that. This is a systemic crises of failure that needs to be seen before it can be believed. Then, maybe, we could imagine a new way to do what was once deemed, "public service". Until then, it is all about assumptions and the way they are exploited.

Edit: Typo.

[rufus dog]

7. good point nt

[Newest Reality]

9. I appreciate your response - NT

[rufus dog]

10. No problem!

[rufus dog]

4. case in point that may get the thread locked.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x841430

[flvegan]

6. Ego.

All that matters to them is winning, fuck us all subject to it.

Being "correct" is something they don't really get. Losers as they are.

[rufus dog]

8. ego can get out of hand

in this case not so sure.

[coalition_unwilling]

11. Some principles (like "one man, one vote") are way more

important that "winning"

[rufus dog]

12. no doubt

But if you fall for the ploy that they play fair and will treat you with respect then you might get knifed, thus reducing one vote.

[Raine]

19. Except that now that they control the machines

that "one vote" is stolen and elections are rigged. So even though the principle of "one man one vote" is more important than winning when that one vote is stolen, that principle won't get us very far. :-(

[Warren DeMontague]

13. Because for us, unlike those people, facts and truth actually MEAN something.

There is an objective reality, and we do ourselves and everyone else a disservice when we ignore it or try to pretend that it is otherwise.

Global Warming is real.

Evolution is a fact.

I'm tired of people who think that they can make up their own facts to suit an agenda. Someone fucked up, but from what I've read, it was a mistake and not a broad-daylight ballot box stuffing operation. A verifiable mistake, which means that it will be a relatively simple matter to figure out if she's telling the truth or not. Pretending or imagining this is something it isn't for an additional 12 or 20 hours isn't going to win over any swing voters.

Remember the Obama "B" girl? How much traction did she end up getting McCain?

We need to be on the side of the truth, the side of the facts. The other side is full of shit, on so many matters- I have to believe clear-eyed honesty is always the best policy. That doesn't mean we shouldn't make damn sure that the numbers add up, and hell yes there should be questions as to why another Jesus drunk fetus jihadi was given such leeway to get up close and personal with the voting results.

But let's not filter the facts, even if they don't suit us.

[freshwest]

14. Those who believe in equality treat others they way they would like to be treated.

That is an universal spiritual law pubs don't respect and never will. They do not believe in democracy. If dems act like them, they lose in the spiritual plane.

However, the spirited responses Clinton gave back is real gift but few people have that kind of personality.

Or if they do, the pub media won't report it. We'll have to evolve to something else to get justice out of this.

[rufus dog]

15. and those who clearly identify and imposter or enemy in a fight

take them out,

[freshwest]

20. WOOF!

[Ellipsis]

16. You'd have to ask Mark Twain K&R

I like the last paragraph.

[rufus dog]

17. thanks

The post had a dual purpose, one to put out my opinion, two to identify some strange behavior from other posts. Although it took me a long time, I was able to enlighten myself a bit.

[rufus dog]

18. test kick