Do I Have This Right ? Only the Waukesha county wide and Brookfield city totals were made public....

[Junkdrawer]

on election night.

And then a shady clerk with a private computer says "Hey, I forgot to count Brookfield!". And since the REST of the subtotals are unknown, there's no way to prove with previously published numbers that she's lying?

Is that right?

[nebenaube]

1. Well

If you want to lie with statistics, then your lie better not stand out against the background. This woman has been studying average republican performance on a ward by ward basis statewide since 2006; when she participated in the development of software to report such data.

[brentspeak]

2. I was wondering the same thing myself

Did the local media publish each of Waukesha's other respective precincts on Election Night, as well?

[Junkdrawer]

3. Unless they did, it's looking like the only "error" than can't be confirmed...

with election night numbers is the "error" that happened.

How about that.

[xchrom]

4. Kick for the observations. Nt

[PeaceNikki]

5. They don't release that info until after certification which we are in the process of doing.

The votes not included in unofficial totals were discovered during this process.

[pintobean]

6. I'm surprised you're not

off banging your head against a wall by now. You're persistence is both appreciated and admirable.

[PeaceNikki]

7. Thanks. :)

It's weird. The misinformation being tossed around about the process here, the people here, the Democrats here is mind boggling.

I am not a conspiracy theorist and I know that the investigations are just starting. RIGHT NOW it looks like an mistake made by an incompetent boob. I HOPE they find fraud and fully expose it, but the case of the Brookfield votes doesn't appear to be it.

Again: if this asshole wanted to throw the election to Prosser, this is about the stupidest way she could have done it. Anyone with access to city vote totals and a calculator would discover it in 5 minutes once the error was announced.

[pintobean]

8. It reminds me of the dead people in The Sixth Sense

They only see what they want to see.

[L. Coyote]

9. Keep in mind, votes are counted in each jurisdiction and then reported to the county.

The people in each jurisdiction have the totals they reported.

I was paying close attention to this county on election night, and
I thought it was going to swing the election back to Prosser and upset my prediction:

I'm declaring the winner in Wisconsin Supreme Court race
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x821883

as is reflected in my election night blogging here on DU. Then, something odd happened.
The number pf precincts reporting was altered without the expected shift to Prosser.

FROM my blogging, Apr-05-11 (PST):

09:07 PM = 53. Waukesha Co. will move this towards equal, Milwaukie Co. will tip the scale back.
Waukesha Co. might tip 20,000 votes to Prosser yet.

09:32 PM - 59. 3344/3630 precincts - Prosser = 686,541 - Kloppenburger = 686,057
Waukesha Co. 130/198 precincts reporting 81,255 vs. 29,332
This is 66% vote counted.

09:45 PM - 61. WAUKESHA Co. 28.0% shifts down to 26.5%
Waukesha Co. 130/198 precincts reporting: 81,255 vs. 29,332
This is the one anomalous county at this point, with about a 8% difference compared to every other county in Wisconsin shifting blue 6% or more.

09:46 PM - 62. The Republican stronghold is the last to report, with a very anomalous result so far.
O.K., I'm getting suspicious.

09:58 PM - 64. WAUKESHA Co. precinct count is updated, vote remains the same.
Looks like the AP or someone is doing a poor job of sychronizing updates of votes and precincts reporting.
This has been messing up my algorithm. There won't be a bunch more votes tipping to Prosser in this county!

On Edit: Kloppenburg is correct, Kloppenburger is my error.

[pintobean]

10. Still at this? Jeeze.

[MadMaddie]

15. Agreed! Rachel just went over this women's history in this role

and this is not the first time questionable issues have been raised about her role. Over and over her level of incompetence has proven to be true time and time again. Interestingly enough similar instances have happened and she was right in the middle of it.

With the Republicans there are no coincidences.

[brentspeak]

11. Really? So how was it that Brookfield's numbers were published on Tuesday night

in the local newspaper?

[pintobean]

12. Brookfield reported directly to the local paper

Their report to the county didn't get included in the county's report to the AP.

[brentspeak]

13. I think I just said that

:eyes:

However, just in case you failed entirely to read the OP, or understand it, or understand the context of my own reply later in this thread to someone who wrongly claimed that none of the county precincts individual totals were available to the public on Election Night: The question the OP of this thread brought up was (paraphrasing) "Did the other county precincts besides Brookfield have their individual voting totals reported by the media on Tuesday night? And if not -- why not, and does it mean that we can't check the veracity of those individual precincts' vote totals?"

[JackRiddler]

14. Yes, good question: "Did county towns besides Brookfield have their individual voting totals...

reported Tuesday night? And if not, why not?

Because: Having Brookfield numbers reported Tuesday night, and then an adding error (omission of Brookfield from county totals) discovered later, supports the idea that the sudden announcement of the 7,000-vote change was indeed an error.

However, if Brookfield was the only town in the Cty. reported as a town Tuesday night, this suggests the reporting itself might have been to prepare the story.

Seems kind of elaborate though.

Regardless of what turns out to be the case in Waukesha, my feeling is that a recount will find widespread incompetence and, definitely, evidence of fraud.

Because there's no election in this country without widespread fraud by the Republicans any more. That would be impossible since 2000, when fraud was committed so publicly and yet was so richly rewarded, and rendered taboo. That would also be contrary to what the Republicans have become: an unapologetic maximum class war outfit willing to destroy their designated enemies (workers and Democrats) by any means available, the law be damned.

Seriously. Walker wants to take away the right to organize and sell state assets for nothing to cronies. You've seen the means he's used. He's typical of a much larger phenomenon. Do you really think these people, who commit so many dirty tricks, stop at election fraud? Please.

.

[brentspeak]

17. Agreed. Walker and the people who fund/control him are sociopaths

People who have no scruples, no ethics, no honesty. I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that people like them are among us, let alone that they have been given so much power.

[pintobean]

18. Oh, there's a fail here

but its not mine.

[Imagevision]

16. This is like Bush's election - another rip off while Walker is laughing his ass off.