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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:02 PM
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Who is this lady and what is she doing?

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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:03 PM
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1. Nixon's
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 05:03 PM by warrior1
secretary. Hanging up a phone.
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:27 PM
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27. That's not even the half of it.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:03 PM
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2. She's Nixon's secretary explaining how she "accidentally" erased
24 minutes of tape.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:04 PM
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3. Rose Mary Woods?
?
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:05 PM
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5. I'm asking because I posted this picture on another thread, and
I think two different people thought it was me!

Talk about a generation gap!
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:06 PM
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6. lol. nt
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:07 PM
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8. Look at Tank on her desk... is that a early Selectric?
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:12 PM
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12. No, it's an IBM Executive
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 05:15 PM by musette_sf
The main selling point of the Selectric was that the carriage didn't move, the typeball replaced the regular key setup, and instead the typeball moved.

The IBM Executive was a strange animal, a proportionately spaced typewriter, with a carbon ribbon like the Selectric had. If I remember correctly, a capital W was 5 "units", and a lower-case i was 1 "unit". It had weird half-space keys in addition to the spacebar.

And it most certainly was the typewriter used on the original of the famous Bu$hie TANG forms upon which the career of Dan Rather was crucified. If I heard ONE MORE idiotic pundit who was, like, 3, when I was the Executrix Of The IBM Executive, say "those forms were proportionately spaced and there was NO typewriter like that at that time", I was gonna scream.

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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 06:54 PM
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18. I'd forgotten about the IBM Executive
typewriter. I seem to recall it never was widely used, because the proportionality spacing was just very awkward. I bet it was especially awkward if you'd typed a wrong letter, and were now trying to go back and type the correct letter over the white-out. Only, if the first letter was proportionally smaller than the second, it just wouldn't work very well, would it?

I don't think I ever actually saw one of those in use. I do recall the Selectrics, very well.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:03 PM
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20. Where did you use whiteout? Not on a business letter.
It's called a do-over.

Any proportional typewriter (some Selectrics were) would have that problem. Erasing or painting was unacceptable.

--imm
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:54 PM
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24. The reason I had a very limited
secretarial career back in the day before computers, was that I'm a fast but somewhat sloppy typist.

White-out was my best friend.

I also recall typing papers in high school and college and once I discovered erasable bond, my life was much simpler.

I am so happy I live in the computer era now.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:21 PM
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47. Erasable bond was a gift from God.
This thread is a real trip down memory lane! :rofl:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:22 PM
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25. I used one of those. When there was no mistakes
it looked really good but boy it was a pain in the ass when you made a mistake. :cry: I liked the Selectric better, the letters were in script.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:47 PM
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31. Except, when you got up to any speed on a Selectric, it sounded
like it was going to fly apart!

The noise of the Selectric drove me nuts, and waiting for the type-ball carriage to return.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:51 PM
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34. rattleclicka rattleclicka rattleclicka
(bzzzzzzzz)

rattleclicka rattleclicka rattleclicka
(bzzzzzzzz)

I know exactly what you're talking about.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:04 PM
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36. Obviously, you do! ha.
The mechanical hum was impossible to ignore.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:06 PM
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37. You're making me want to go dig up my copies
of "Processed World"

http://www.processedworld.com/
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:13 PM
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42. Looks like fun -- will check it out tomorrow when I'm not in
end-of-the-day fade mode.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:46 PM
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30. I got very creative at manual kerning on the Executive
when I made an error.

I shudder now to think of doing manual kerning on a typewriter...
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:45 PM
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29. Yes, capital W and lower case "m" were five units, iirc -- I was
working in a print shop in the 'seventies and trying to do justified typesetting on one of these darlings. Numerals were three, I think.

And I was also furious at the people who said variable width spacing did not exist on typewriters during GWB's TANG "service" era -- I googled and googled, but had forgotten the name of the machine.

Reading your post made me feel somewhat better -- but why did no decent journalist expose this at the time? Because Karl's ratfuckery worked better than Dan Rather's research staff???

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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:50 PM
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33. Hey, I posted about it at every opportunity,
but like Regis says, "I'm only one (wo)man!"

Like I said, all of the pundits who kept catapulting the propaganda, were watching Big Bird while I was toiling away in the office canyons of Manhattan in the late 60s and early 70s.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:10 PM
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39. I believe the final pronouncement was that the documents Rather
had were "fake copies of documents that might well have been real originally" or some such nonsense -- based on the typeface!

I think that was when I began unhinging from the news world.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:14 PM
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43. kind of the same here
the IBM Model D "Executive" was not exactly a freaking state secret.

http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/modelb/modelb_office2.html

In the spring of 1967, the division announced the IBM Model D "Executive" Typewriter. It features "proportional spacing," first developed by IBM, and incorporates the same type of contoured keyboard found on the "Selectric" typewriter. Other features include added typamatic keys and a "control row," containing such controls as margin and tab set, above the keyboard. In all, the Model D incorporated some 250 improvements over the Model C at the time of its introduction.

In addition to the new "Executive" typewriter, the Model D line includes a standard electric model without proportional spacing; an electric formswriter designed to speed the preparation of continuous business forms; and a new model, featuring decimal tabulation, especially designed for statistical typing.


(okay, NOW I'm having flashbacks of the Executive statistical typewriter! GAAAAHHHH talk about a monster tank!)

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:16 PM
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44. I remember that "half-space"
I always wondered who used it and why.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:17 PM
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46. manual kerning
when you made an error and had to make it "look good"
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:07 PM
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9. It's hell to wake up one morning
and realize that one is on the cusp of geezerhood, isn't it?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 06:57 PM
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19. CUSP? What cusp? We're IN IT for sure!
GEEZ, this is bad...

don't talk to me...
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:15 PM
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23. Heh. OK, if you say so.
Snicker.

Don't talk to you? Well, OK. I'm sure that's my loss . . . .
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 04:59 AM
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49. Sort of my way of saying "get off my lawn"...
trying to be a bit humorous...

:hi:
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 01:15 PM
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51. No worries
:hi:
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:04 PM
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21. ROFL! That pic is a classic, isn't it?
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:07 PM
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7. Exactly. Ask her about the 18 minutes. Hmmm.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:04 PM
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4. Nixon's secretary?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:10 PM
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10. She's the vote counter in Wisconsin talking about how she found 15,000 votes
they were under her phone.

Thanks for the thread, hedgehog.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:11 PM
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11. Good one! Can I steal that?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:13 PM
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13. Consider it yours.
:hi:
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:28 PM
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28. Excellent!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:14 PM
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14. Rose Mary Woods From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rose Mary Woods
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Mary_Woods

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:14 PM
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15. Trying to get herself taken off of Mr. Blackwell's worst-dressed list
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 05:15 PM by TheCowsCameHome
Some neat threads there, Rosemary...............
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:05 PM
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22. LOL!
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:17 PM
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16. I thought of this as soon as I heard the looney tunes excuse out of Wisconsin.
I remember it all well.

Nixon was toast, and I had hair.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:22 PM
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17. Back then they had to destroy gov't records. Today, they're just declared State Secrets
Ah, Progress . . .
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:26 PM
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26. Rosemary Woods , Nixons's secretary,
trying desperately to cover his ass, err, stretch credulity trying to explain that she could answer the phone and accidentally put and keep her foot on an erase pad on a foot treadle,(under the desk)and thus erase the magic exact 16 seconds of tape that Nixon needed to erase.
I remember it well.

No body believed her.

It says volumes that Nixon the Commander In Chief let his long time friend and secretary take the hit for him and let her suffer the derision for his lie and her loyalty for the rest of her life.

Nixon was a coward and a whole lot worse.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:48 PM
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32. She's doing the 18 1/2 minute minuet. .
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 08:48 PM by annabanana
It aint the hokey pokey.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:06 PM
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38. The 18 1/2 minutes erased dealt with JFK assasination remarks that couldn't be allowed out...
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:52 PM
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35. Human Error
it happens all the time
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:11 PM
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40. Ah! Memories of my youth!
Dear Rose Mary, the very soul of loyalty. I never felt any animosity toward her, she was a woman who loved unconditionally, a woman determined to protect her beloved.

And I'm glad to know that she was able to retire into obscurity until her death in 2005, I like to think that she was well looked-after by those whom she served once she sank from public view.

I was in my early 20s during the Watergate hearings. My partner (who some years later became my husband) and I did not own a television. So, every day when the hearings were on, he and I and a number of friends would betake ourselves to the local 3.2 bar to watch the hearings on the bar's TV.

We'd order a pitcher (or three) of 3.2 beer and all sit around a table close under the TV, jeering and cheering as events dictated. We were a bunch of already old hippies living in the old hippie center of Minneapolis, the West Bank.

As I said, I hold no animosity toward Rose Mary Woods. I despised Nixon, but I couldn't help but understand where she was coming from. She was going to do her damndest to help her guy.

Thanks for bringing back the memories! :hug:

sw
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:12 PM
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41. Ah, the "Rose Mary Reach"
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 09:13 PM by Canuckistanian
It's popular at RNC exercise gyms, so I hear.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:16 PM
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45. I am showing my age by recognizing this picture immediately.
Without reading any posts. Yes, it is Rosemary Woods, demonstrating how she "accidentally" erased 18 minutes out of that infamous tape. I don't recall too many people being convinced. Ah, the good old days. :)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:24 PM
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48. Why, that is Rosemary Woods, President Nixon's private secretary
She was demonstrating for the Watergate special prosecutor's staff how she thought she accidentally erased 17 minutes of crucial conversation on one of the tapes.

This maneuver became known as the "Rosemary stretch"....................02
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:10 AM
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50. It led to this one. Goodbye and Good Riddance.
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